Joey Nolfi
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Joy Behar's latest joke on The View attempted to push J.D. Vance's narrative into Hillbilly Ele-GBT territory.
The 82-year-old comedian asked on Friday's live show if Donald Trump's VP pick is gay, after panelist Ana Navarro shocked the program's interview guest, queer icon Patti LuPone, by informing her that Vance speculated in a recent chat with podcaster Joe Rogan that the Trump ticket could win the "normal gay guy" vote during Tuesday's election.
"Yesterday, J.D. Vance said the normal gays are going to vote for them," Navarro said, as LuPone put her head in her hand and asked, "Oh my God, who is this?"
"What does that even mean?" conservative panelist and former Trump staffer Alyssa Farah Griffin posed, before Behar quipped, "How does he know? Is he one of them?"
The audience lightly gasped at Behar's remark, after similar jokes about sexuality have landed other comedians and internet in hot water — including past digital memes that mockingly categorized Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin as a romantic one.
Vance has largely drawn criticism from the LGBTQ community, with GLAAD even listing a roster of stances the politician has taken that they cite as going against the interests of the community.
Entertainment Weekly has reached out to representatives for the Trump campaign for comment.
Prior to becoming Trump's VP pick, Vance — who also courted controversy earlier this year after a resurfaced 2021 interview clip showed him slamming "childless cat ladies" on the political left — published an account of his life story under the title Hillbilly Elegy, which chronicled his relationship to his grandmother and mother (played by Glenn Close and Amy Adams in a subsequent Netflix movie) as well as his budding romance with his wife, Usha Vance (portrayed by Freida Pinto in the film).
The View airs weekdays at 11 a.m. ET/10 a.m. PT on ABC.
Anderson Cooper: Trump Would Be the ‘Not-Normal’ Kind of Gay Guy
Janna Brancolini
Fri, November 1, 2024
Dimitrios Kambouris
Anderson Cooper has some questions about JD Vance’s theory that he and Donald Trump are winning the “normal gay guy vote” in the election.
“I’m curious to know where the line is between a normal gay person and a not-normal gay person,” the CNN host said.
“I can guess what it is. Anything related to drag—and wearing as much makeup as Donald Trump wears—that would be considered not-normal. It’s fine for Donald Trump, but on a gay guy that wouldn’t be considered normal,” he added.
During a three-hour interview with Joe Rogan on Thursday, the Republican vice-presidential candidate said he wouldn’t be surprised if Trump won among “normal” gays who “just want to be left the hell alone.”
Trump has also tried and failed to explain how he would protect IVF, which many same-sex couples rely on to start families, from getting swept-up in those same abortion bans.
The strategy has apparently failed to win over LGBTQ+ voters; polling shows Kamala Harris leads by almost 70 points among likely queer voters.
After Vance’s comments on Thursday, quote-unquote normal gay guys chimed in on X, formerly Twitter, to make it clear they would not be supporting the Trump-Vance ticket.
“Sorry I wasn’t there to see JD Vance’s latest gaffe. My husband and I were taking our kids trick-or-treating. In our minivan. With costumes from Target,” Pete Buttigieg’s husband Chasten wrote. “Anyway, have you made a plan to knock doors for Kamala Harris this weekend?
Fri, November 1, 2024
JD Vance claimed during an interview with podcaster Joe Rogan that teenagers become “trans” to better their chances of getting into Ivy League schools.
In the three-hour episode of The Joe Rogan Experience that was released on Thursday, the Ohio senator and Republican vice presidential nominee also claimed that some women “celebrate” their abortions and that studies show that “testosterone levels in young men” are connected to “conservative politics.”
Vance spent significant amounts of time criticizing transgender and nonbinary people, and added that he believed he and former President Donald Trump are likely to win the “normal gay guy vote.”
The first-term senator claimed that children in some white families think that becoming trans would enhance their chances of getting into Ivy League schools. There is no data that being trans betters chances of getting into a particular school.
“If you are a middle-class or upper-middle-class white parent and the only thing that you care about is whether your child goes into Harvard or Yale, like, obviously, that pathway has become a lot harder for a lot of upper-middle-class kids,” Vance said.
He added: “But the one way that those people can participate in the DEI bureaucracy in this country is to be trans.”
DEI – diversity, equity, and inclusion – is a framework that aims to promote the fair treatment of all people.
Trump also recently appeared on Rogan’s show as he and Vance attempt to bring out young, male voters to the polls via a series of podcast appearances.
JD Vance appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast on Thursday with just five days left in the presidential election cycle. The Ohio senator and Republican vice presidential nominee also claimed that some women “celebrate” their abortions and that studies show that “testosterone levels in young men” are connected to “conservative politics” (Screenshot / The Joe Rogan Experience)
Vance claimed during the interview that liberal women were publically celebrating their abortions, including “baking birthday cakes and posting about it” online.
“I think there’s very few people that are celebrating,” Rogan pushed back.
“For a lot of people, one of the issues is that men are making decisions for what women can and can’t do,” the comedian told Vance. “And one of the more concerning aspects of this is ... say if you live in a state like Texas where there’s a limit to when you can get an abortion, I think it’s like six weeks, which a lot of people think at that point in time you can’t even tell whether or not you’re pregnant, and this puts a lot of women in very vulnerable positions.”
He added: “And then there is this thought that they could go to another state where it is legal and have an abortion, but they could be possibly prosecuted for that in their state. That’s concerning to me.”
Vance claimed not to have heard of anyone being detained for traveling for an abortion.
“I don’t like the idea, to be clear, of people getting arrested for freely moving around the country,” the senator said.
During one part of the discussion, Vance asked Rogan: “Have you seen all these studies that basically connect testosterone levels in young men with conservative politics?”
“Maybe that’s why the Democrats want us all to be [in] ... poor health and overweight ... because it means we’re going to be more liberal, right? If you make people less healthy, they apparently become more politically liberal,” he added.
Curtis M. Wong
Fri, November 1, 2024
Anderson Cooper Makes Cheeky Dig At Trump After JD Vance's 'Normal Gay Guy' Comment
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Anderson Cooper chimed in Thursday on Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance’s recent claim that former President Donald Trump is likely to win the “normal gay guy vote.”
During a panel discussion on his show, “Anderson Cooper 360,” the CNN anchor said he was curious to know exactly where Vance would make a distinction between “normal” and “not normal” gay men.
“At first I was like, ‘Oh, JD Vance thinks there’s normal gay people.’ So I guess that’s sort of progress,” Cooper, who is gay, said. “I’m curious to know what the difference — where the line is between a ‘normal’ gay person and a ‘not normal’ gay person.”
He then suggested Vance may possibly draw the line at “anything related to drag,” before taking a cheeky dig at Trump.
“Wearing as much makeup as Donald Trump wears, that would be considered not normal,” he quipped. “It’s fine for Donald Trump, but on a gay guy, that wouldn’t be considered normal.”
Vance made the questionable claim in a Thursday interview on Joe Rogan’s podcast in which he alluded to a gay friend who was a committed conservative. He contrasted this man with other members of the “crazy” broader LGBTQ+ community, especially transgender and nonbinary people.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if me and Trump won just the normal gay guy vote because again, they just wanted to be left the hell alone,” he said, before suggesting implausibly that more high school graduates were identifying as transgender to boost their odds of getting into Ivy League colleges.
Vance’s comment overlooked the staunchly anti-LGBTQ platform that Trump embraced during his first term ― something which many supporters of Vice President Kamala Harris quickly pointed out on social media.
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Vance’s former friend calls trans college admission comments ‘outrageous’
Brooke Migdon
Fri, November 1, 2024
Vance’s former friend calls trans college admission comments ‘outrageous’
Sofia Nelson, a former friend of Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) from Yale Law School, on Thursday called the vice presidential nominee’s suggestion that transgender individuals are identifying as such to make themselves more marketable to elite colleges and universities “outrageous” and “offensive.”
Vance made the remark during a three-hour interview with podcast host Joe Rogan, during which the two men also criticized allowing transgender athletes to participate in women’s sports and questioned scientific evidence supporting gender-affirming health care. At one point, Vance said he expects himself and former President Trump to win “the normal gay guy vote.”
“I think the MAGA movement thinks of minority identities as something we take on and off like a jacket,” Nelson, who is transgender, told CNN’s Laura Coates late Thursday in a television appearance after the Vance-Rogan podcast episode aired. “The only advantage that’s flown to me from being transgender is that I get to live my authentic self, which I think is, you know, what all trans people are seeking.”
“The reality for trans people in America is that we’re four times more likely to be the victims of violent crime,” Nelson said, referring to a 2021 analysis of federal crime victimization numbers. “There’s no evidence to support what he’s saying, and I think it’s part of this nefarious, calculated plot to divide us and to sow division amongst the American people, and that’s why you see that they spent $100 million running ads attacking me and my community.”
Trump and Vance have made anti-transgender messaging a central part of their campaign’s closing argument, spending tens of millions of dollars on advertising that paints the Democratic ticket of Vice President Harris and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as extreme for their past support of trans-inclusive policies. At rallies, Trump frequently rails against what he calls “transgender insanity” and has pledged on multiple occasions to ban trans women and girls from female sports teams as president.
The former president has also made remarks disparaging the LGBTQ community more broadly, and last week referred several times to CNN anchor Anderson Cooper, who is gay, as “Allison Cooper.”
“Trans people just want to be left alone to be able to live our lives,” Nelson said Thursday. “I’m not bothering anyone. I’m not making it difficult for any, quote, normal person to live their life, and I wish that we could get back to a place of respectful, curious dialog and not attacks.”
“I do miss JD and Usha. I don’t wish anything ill on them,” Nelson added. “I care about them as people, but the political messenger that he’s become, I think, is incredibly dangerous, and I encourage everyone, whether trans or not, to think about, ‘What do these types of attacks from our leaders mean for us as a country?’ and, ‘What kind of message does it send our children about bullying?’ These are not the ways we would want our kids to talk about people who are different from us. It’s certainly not the way we want our leaders to talk about it.”
Nelson shared about 90 emails and text messages between themself and Vance, primarily from 2014 through 2017, with The New York Times in July. Vance in the exchanges describes Trump as a “morally reprehensible human being” and expresses his support for Nelson’s gender identity. He and his wife, Usha, brought Nelson homemade baked goods after Nelson underwent surgery related to their transition.
“What I’ve seen is a chameleon, someone who is able to change their positions and their values depending on what will amass them political power and wealth,” Nelson told CNN’s Erin Burnett in July. “And I think that’s really unfortunate, because it reflects a lack of integrity.
The One Clarifying Moment From J.D. Vance’s Outrageous Joe Rogan Interview
Molly Olmstead
Fri, November 1, 2024
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“Have you seen all these studies that basically connect testosterone levels in young men with conservative politics?” —J.D. Vance, in his three-hour interview on Joe Rogan’s podcast, published Thursday
The Trump-Vance campaign has, in the final push, gone all out in the bro-podcast space in hopes of turning out the base. To that end, in an episode released Thursday, J.D. Vance made a three-hour appearance on the mother of all bro podcasts, The Joe Rogan Experience. Vance and Rogan covered a wide range of topics, but the most notable theme—given the particularly gendered nature of this campaign tactic—was Vance’s effort to define the GOP as the party of masculinity.
For example, when Rogan claimed that there were “very few things that will turn you into a conservative more than martial arts,” Vance jumped at the chance to connect support of Donald Trump to higher testosterone levels. Rogan was making a different argument—that martial arts encourage a conservative worldview because they emphasize the importance of hard work. But Vance went ahead with the implication that testosterone makes one a Trump voter.
“Maybe that’s why the Democrats want us all to be poor health and overweight,” Vance said, without clarifying in what way Democrats were plotting against public health. “It means we’re going to be more liberal.” It’s possible that Vance is referring to the body positivity movement, but it’s hard to know exactly what he meant.
Vance’s most heated points about gender dwelled not on hormones but on LGBTQ+ issues. He guessed, for example, that Trump would win the “normal gay guy vote” because these men were tired of being lumped in with gender-related debates. “Now you have all this crazy stuff on top of it that, they’re like, ‘No, no, we didn’t want to give pharmaceutical products to 9-year-olds who are transitioning their genders,’ ” Vance said. The Trump campaign embraced gay men, he way saying, as long as those men also embraced conventional ideas about gender and masculinity.
Transgender women, the second great boogeyman of the Trump campaign’s fearmongering (immigrants are always first), came up repeatedly as reminders of the threat to societal masculinity. Vance argued that transgender women were forcing children to see their genitals by wearing short skirts in public. (“If that’s what you’re doing, you’re a pervert.”) He asserted that Big Pharma was pushing hormones on children. He dismissed the idea of transgender children by talking about his 4-year-old son identifying as a dinosaur. (“I’m gonna take him to, like, the dinosaur transition clinic and put scales on him?”) He expressed concern that his daughter would get injured competing against transgender girls in sports. (“I’m terrified she’s gonna get bludgeoned to death because we’re allowing a 6-foot-1 male to compete with her.”)
On the surface, Vance may not seem like the best Trump surrogate on the topic of toxic masculinity: He, unlike Trump, has been married just once and has none of Trump’s gaudy-rich-man, reality-TV, grab-them-by-the-you-know swagger. But Vance is also a Harvard Law–educated intellectual, so he knows how to craft intellectual frameworks for Trump’s emotional outbursts.
So it’s fitting that his most bizarre argument around gender had to do with elite institutions. It came down to a wild theory: that white parents are incentivized to encourage their children to identify as transgender in order to get them into Ivy League Schools. Vance said:
If you are a, you know, middle-class or upper-middle-class white parent, and the only thing that you care about is whether your child goes into Harvard or Yale, obviously that pathway has become a lot harder for a lot of upper-middle-class kids. But the one way that those people can participate in the DEI bureaucracy in this country is to be trans, and is there a dynamic that’s going on where, if you become trans, that is the way to reject your white privilege.
It’s a patently absurd theory. There is no evidence that anyone has ever encouraged their child to pass themselves off as transgender for college admissions. And yet, if you look past the novelty of the argument, you can see how this claim fits into the worldview Vance is promoting: The social-order liberals want disadvantages for white people, to Vance’s mind. In an unfair system in which oppression is necessary to win esteem, white people are forced to seek out contorted ways to identify with oppressed groups, creating a twisted and tiring game of identity fraud.
Here’s why the internet is convinced JD Vance wears eyeliner
Here’s why the internet is convinced JD Vance wears eyeliner
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Ever since JD Vance was selected as Donald Trump’s running mate for the 2024 presidential election, the internet has had much to say about the Ohio senator.
Within a few short months, the 39-year-old potential vice president has gone from best-selling author of Hillbilly Elegy to one of the worst-polling, non-incumbent vice presidential picks since 1980. Like many things these days, much of Vance’s net-negative rating has to do with social media.
For those who are unaware, Vance recently sparked a social media firestorm over past comments he made about Vice President Kamala Harris, in which he described her as a “childless” cat lady. His resurfaced comments – which he made during a 2021 interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson – received backlash from Hollywood star Jennifer Aniston and childfree people everywhere.
But that wasn’t the only Vance-related topic of conversation to go viral online. While the most bizarre rumor to be spread about Vance seemingly involves a couch, some internet sleuths are more perplexed by Vance’s appearance, particularly when it comes to his distinct blue eyes.
Across platforms like X, formerly Twitter, many social media users are wondering whether Vance wears eyeliner to enhance his bright blue eyes. The speculation appeared to beginin early summer, when journalist James Surowiecki quote-tweeted a clip of Vance from a September 2021 video interview.
“Why does JD Vance always look like he’s wearing eyeliner?” Surowiecki wrote over the video, adding: “He doesn’t really seem like the goth-boy type.”
Unsurprisingly, this prompted thousands of social media users to share photos of Vance from past on-air television appearances, zooming in on what appeared to be a black smudge accentuating his waterline.
“There is only one urgent political question on my mind tonight. Why does JD Vance wear so much eyeliner?” one person asked on X, while another user joked: “I do think it’s funny that JD Vance thought all his problems could be solved with contour and a little eyeliner.”
“I’ve been saying JD Vance wears eyeliner since he got elected, I’m so damn happy someone else sees it!!!” someone else posted.
Meanwhile, photojournalist Zach D Roberts shared his own photo of Vance taken during a recent speaking engagement, in which a black line was clearly visible under his bottom eyelashes. “I really thought people were joking about this, but then I photographed him last week. Vance 100 percent does wear eyeliner,” Roberts captioned the post.
Over on TikTok, one woman even claimed she found Vance’s exact shade of eyeliner. “This is unserious political commentary but I can’t stop thinking about it,” said user Casey (@mamasissiesays) in a recent video with more than 300,000 views. “Is JD Vance wearing eyeliner?”
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As she compared side-by-side images of Vance’s public appearances alongside his official Senate portrait, Casey was admittedly conflicted. “No eyeliner to see here. That is very much a man not wearing eyeliner,” she said about his Senate portrait. However, sharing a photo of Vance’s TV interview, Casey said: “Obviously something’s going on here… along with some contour. I’d love to know his shade.”
She then jokingly claimed to have found Vance’s eyeliner pencil of choice from the brand Urban Decay, in the shade “desperation”.
The speculation grew so much that it also prompted comedian Jimmy Fallon to poke fun at Vance’s rumored affinity for eyeliner in an episode of The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. During the July 22 broadcast, Fallon showed an image of a graph increasing along its x-axis, along with the mocking tagline: “Google searches for, ‘Does JD Vance wear eyeliner?’”
The late-night talk show host then cut to a photo of Vance, once again showing a distinct black line under his eyes.
It may be possible that Vance uses eyeliner for live events and TV spots, just like many public figures wear makeup to enhance their appearance on camera. However, the reason why so many people online can’t stop talking about Vance’s rumored makeup is because it’s “hypocritical” due to the Republican’s staunch anti-LGBTQ+ beliefs.
“We’re fine with men who wear makeup. What we’re not fine with is hypocrites who make policies, harmful policies, against men who wear makeup,” Casey noted in her viral TikTok video.
The Ohio senator has introduced bills proposing to limit access to transgender healthcare, and limit the ability to mark additional gender identities on US passports. Vance also grilled several State Department nominees with a questionnaire about LGBTQ+ rights, Pride flags, diversity and inclusion, and other so-called “woke” issues,” which ultimately delayed the confirmation of more than 30 diplomats to senior positions until last April.
For someone who may very well be wearing eyeliner, Vance has been known to espouse traditional views on gender too. His pro-natalist stance has seen him describe declining birth rates as a “civilizational crisis” driven by a “childless left.” Vance has also argued that people with children should have “more power” at the voting booth, and claimed that Kamala Harris “doesn’t really have a direct stake” in the future of the country because she did not give birth to her two step-children.
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