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Thousands stage pro-Palestinian protests worldwide, on eve of Oct 7 attack that triggered Gaza war

Reuters
Sun, October 6, 2024 














PARIS (Reuters) - Thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators protested in cities around the world on Sunday on the eve of the first anniversary of the deadly Oct. 7 Hamas attack on Israel that triggered the war in Gaza.

Demonstrations were held in major cities from Jakarta to Istanbul to Rabat, and followed protests on Saturday in major European capitals as well as Washington and New York.

"We are here to support the Palestinian resistance," said protester Ahmet Unal in Istanbul, where thousands assembled.


In Paris, the Jewish community gathered on Sunday to mark one year since the attack by Palestinian militant group Hamas, when militants attacked southern Israeli communities, killing 1,200 people and taking about 250 hostages, according to Israeli figures.

Israel's subsequent military campaign against Hamas in Gaza has killed nearly 42,000 Palestinians, according to Gaza's health ministry, and laid waste to the enclave.

Israel launched air attacks on Beirut's southern suburbs overnight and early on Sunday, the most intense bombardment of the Lebanese capital since Israel sharply escalated its campaign against Iranian-backed group Hezbollah last month.

In Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim-majority country, at least 1,000 pro-Palestinian protesters gathered on Sunday morning near the U.S. embassy demanding that Washington stop supplying weapons to Israel.

In Sydney, thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters gathered ahead of the Oct. 7 anniversary, chanting and waving Lebanese and Palestinian flags amid a heavy police presence.

One person was arrested for waving an Israeli flag with a swastika in the middle of it instead of the Star of David.

In Rabat, thousands of Moroccans marched, calling for a halt to the violence in Gaza and Lebanon, in one of the largest protests in the country since the beginning of the war in Gaza.

Protesters demanded an end to Morocco's diplomatic ties with Israel, chanting "no to normalisation, Palestine is not for sale," referring to Morocco's establishing of diplomatic relations with Israel.

Over the past year, the scale of the killing and destruction in Gaza has prompted some of the biggest global demonstrations in years, including in the U.S., which saw weeks of pro-Palestinian college campus encampments.

Advocates have raised concerns over antisemitic and Islamophobic rhetoric in some protests and counter-protests related to the conflict. Rights advocates have warned about rising threats against Jews and Muslims around the world.

The United States and other allies have supported Israel's right to self-defence, but Israel has faced wide international condemnation over its actions in Gaza, and now over its bombarding of Lebanon.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says his government is acting to prevent a repeat of the Oct. 7 assault by Hamas.

(Reporting by Reuters bureaus; Writing by Leigh Thomas; Editing by Giles Elgood)



Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters rally in L.A. ahead of Oct. 7 anniversary

Michael Blackshire, Christopher Goffard
Sat, October 5, 2024 

Pro-Palestinian demonstrators rally Saturday in Pershing Square in Los Angeles to protest Israel's ongoing war in Gaza and Lebanon. (Michael Blackshire / Los Angeles Times)


Hundreds of demonstrators held a pro-Palestinian rally in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday afternoon, chanting "Free Palestine" and "Long live the intifada" as they protested Israel's war in Gaza and Lebanon while marching from Pershing Square to City Hall.

The largely peaceful demonstration came two days before the anniversary of Oct. 7, when Hamas militants in Gaza attacked Israel, killing an estimated 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and taking about 250 hostages.

Across Los Angeles, the anniversary will be marked by commemorations for the victims, candle-lighting ceremonies, demonstrations and counter-demonstrations.


Over the last year, Israeli military operations in Gaza — and more recently, against the Hamas-allied militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon — have been the focus of protests. More than 41,000 Palestinians in Gaza have died in Israeli retaliatory attacks, with more than half being women and children, according to the Gazan Health Ministry.

There appeared to be as many as a thousand people at the demonstration Saturday, though police did not give a crowd estimate. The scene was filled with Palestinian and Lebanese flags. Speakers called for an end to U.S. aid to Israel and a cease-fire in Gaza and Lebanon.

Read more: Tens of thousands join pro-Palestinian rallies in Europe amid high alert as Oct. 7 anniversary nears

At City Hall, a protest leader led the crowd in a chant of "There is only one solution, intifada revolution!" Banners read "End the Siege of Gaza" and "Hands Off Yemen."

Police were not a conspicuous presence at the rally, nor was the presence of counterprotesters. Los Angeles police said there was one arrest: Alex Guillen, 26, was detained in connection with multiple acts of vandalism during the march, officials said Sunday.

An L.A. resident, Guillen was observed spray-painting "Free Palestine!" on the LAPD headquarters building downtown, and he was seen also seen committing other acts of vandalism, police said. At the time of his apprehension, he was in possession of two black spray-paint canisters, police said.

A demonstrator holds a headless doll at the rally. (Michael Blackshire / Los Angeles Times)

Large pro-Palestinian crowds gathered around the world Saturday, with protests involving thousands in European cities. Protests became violent in Rome, and police responded with tear gas and water cannons.

In a joint public service announcement, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security warned that the Oct. 7 anniversary "may be a motivating factor for violent extremists and hate crime perpetrators to engage in violence or threaten public safety."

Times staff writer Daniel Miller contributed to this report.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.


Thousands gather in Australian cities for pro-Palestine demonstrations ahead of 7 October anniversary

Vishwam Sankaran
Sun, October 6, 2024 

Thousands gather in Australian cities for pro-Palestine demonstrations ahead of 7 October anniversary

Thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters took to the streets across Australia ahead of the 7 October anniversary, marking a year since Israel’s invasion of Gaza.

Demonstrations took place in Melbourne, Sydney, and Adelaide, calling for a ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon. The protests came amid concerns that the conflict could escalate into a broader war in the Middle East.

Protesters filled the streets in several cities a day before the first anniversary of the 7 October attacks by Hamas in southern Israel, which killed about 1200 people.


Tensions are rising between Israel and Iran as Israeli defence forces prepare for further ground operations in Gaza and Lebanon.

Protesters, including children wearing coloured keffiyehs and draped in Palestinian flags, were seen calling for “Free Palestine”.

Many urged the Australian government to impose sanctions on Israel for its alleged war crimes in the Middle East.

“I’m sick and tired of the complicity of this government,” Rafah Chaleb, a Palestinian in Australia was quoted as saying by The Guardian. She added that her community feels “perpetually sad”.

“We just want peace, and we want Australia to put pressure on Israel … any small gesture would go a long way to improving the wellbeing of our community and to justice,” she said.

Another protester, idetified just by her first name Kamila said: “It’s about humanity, and I think as humanity – as a collective humanity – I think we’ve failed, and that’s why I’m here today.”

Victoria police said they arrested four protesters “for public order-related matters”, ABC News reported.


Pro-Palestine supporters chant slogan as they march through CBD on Sunday in Sydney, Australia (Getty Images)

In speeches, Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese was the target of verbal attacks for the government’s lack of action against the alleged ongoing genocide in Gaza with many shouting “shame, shame Albanese”.

Since Israel’s invasion of Gaza on 7 October, at least 41,870 Palestinians have been killed and 97,166 others injured, according to Gaza’s Hmas-run health ministry.

Pro-Palestine protests in Sydney proceed with rally on Sunday (Getty Images)

During this period, Israeli military operations in the West Bank have resulted in the deaths of at least 678 Palestinians.

In just two weeks, Israeli ground operations and air strikes near southern Beirut have killed over 2000 people, according to Lebanon’s health ministry.

Pro-Palestine gather at Flinders Street Station during an organised protest on Sunday (Getty Images)

Millions have been displaced with tens of thousands migrating to bordering Syria since Israel expanded its invasion of Lebanon.

Palestinian health officials say at least another 20 people were killed on Saturday after Israel sent army tanks into areas there for the first time in months.

While Israel maintains that its attacks were “precise strikes on Hamas terrorists”, Gaza officials accuse Israel of targeting civilian infrastructure like schools, hospitals, and mosques.

The Hamas-run government in Gaza says Israel struck down 27 houses, schools, and displacement shelters across Gaza over the last two days.

Pro-Palestine supporters gather before march through CBD at Hyde Park on Sunday in Sydney, Australia (Getty Images)

The US and other allies have supported Israel’s right to self-defence, but say more must be done to prevent the conflict from spreading into a wider war in the Middle East.

Protesters also took to the streets in major cities across the world on Saturday.

Protesters march during a Pro-Palestine rally in Melbourne, Victoria on Sunday (EPA)

About 40,000 pro-Palestinian protesters marched through central London, while thousands gathered in Paris, Cape Town, Jakarta, New York City, and near the White House in Washington.

Demonstrators demanded an end to US support for Israel in its military campaigns in Gaza and Lebanon.

US Supreme Court declines Biden's appeal in Texas emergency abortion case

LINDSAY WHITEHURST and JAMIE STENGLE
Mon, October 7, 2024 

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday let stand a decision barring emergency abortions that violate the law in Texas, which has one of the country's strictest abortion bans.

The justices did not detail their reasoning for keeping in place a lower court order that said hospitals cannot be required to provide pregnancy terminations if they would break Texas law. There were no publicly noted dissents.

The decision comes weeks before a presidential election where abortion has been a key issue after the high court's 2022 decision overturning the nationwide right to abortion.

The state’s strict abortion ban has been a centerpiece of Democratic U.S. Rep. Colin Allred ’s challenge against Republican U.S. Sen. Ted Cuz for his seat.

At a campaign event over the weekend in Fort Worth, Texas, hundreds of Allred’s supporters broke out in raucous applause when he vowed to protect a woman’s right to an abortion. “When I’m in the Senate, we’re going to restore Roe v. Wade," Allred said.

At a separate event the same day, in a nearby suburb, Cruz outlined a litany of criticisms against Allred, but didn’t bring up the abortion law.

The justices rebuffed a Biden administration push to throw out the lower court order. The administration argues that under federal law hospitals must perform abortions if needed in cases where a pregnant patient's health or life is at serious risk, even in states where it's banned.

Complaints of pregnant women in medical distress being turned away from emergency rooms in Texas and elsewhere have spiked as hospitals grapple with whether standard care could violate strict state laws against abortion.

The administration pointed to the Supreme Court’s action in a similar case from Idaho earlier this year in which the justices narrowly allowed emergency abortions to resume while a lawsuit continues.

Texas, on the other hand, asked the justices to leave the order in place. Texas said its case is different from Idaho because Texas does have an exception for cases with serious risks to the health of a pregnant patient. At the time the Idaho case began, the state had an exception for the life of a woman but not her health.

Texas pointed to a state supreme court ruling that said doctors do not have to wait until a woman’s life is in immediate danger to provide an abortion legally.

Doctors, though, have said the Texas law is dangerously vague, and a medical board has refused to list all the conditions that qualify for an exception.

Pregnancy terminations have long been part of medical treatment for patients with serious complications, as way to to prevent sepsis, organ failure and other major problems. But in Texas and other states with strict abortion bans, doctors and hospitals have said it is not clear whether those terminations could run afoul of abortion bans that carry the possibility of prison time.

Mary Ziegler, a law professor at the University of California at Davis who has written extensively about abortion, said that there remains much uncertainty for doctors in Texas.

“I think we’re going to continue to see physicians turning away patients, even patients who could qualify under the state’s exceptions because the consequences of guessing wrong are so severe and the laws are not that clear,” Ziegler said.

The Texas case started after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in 2022, leading to abortion restrictions in many Republican-controlled states. The Biden administration issued guidance saying hospitals still needed to provide abortions in emergency situations under a health care law that requires most hospitals to treat any patients in medical distress.

Texas sued over that guidance, arguing that hospitals cannot be required to provide abortions that would violate its ban. Texas The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals sided with the state, ruling in January that the administration had overstepped its authority.

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Stengle contributed to this report from Dallas and AP reporter Sean Murphy contributed to this report from Oklahoma City.


Georgia Supreme Court reinstates six-week abortion ban

Washington (AFP) – The Georgia Supreme Court on Monday reinstated a law in the southern US state prohibiting abortions for women who are more than six weeks pregnant, one week after it was struck down by a lower court.


Issued on: 07/10/2024 
Abortion rights have become a key issue in the upcoming US presidential election between Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Kamala Harris
 © ALEX WONG / GETTY IMAGES NORTH AMERICA/AFP


Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney ruled last week that Georgia's so-called "heartbeat" abortion law is unconstitutional.

Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr, a Republican, appealed the ruling and the state supreme court on Monday put it on hold while the appeal is being heard.

The US Supreme Court, meanwhile, let stand a conservative lower court's ruling that hospitals in Texas -- where abortion laws are among the strictest in the nation -- are not required under federal law to perform emergency abortions.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre denounced the Georgia and Texas decisions.

The Supreme Court decision "means that women in Texas could still be denied critical emergency medical care because of the state's dangerous and extreme abortion bans," Jean-Pierre told reporters.

"The stories we hear of women being denied care they need in emergency situations is completely unacceptable," she said.

Georgia's law bans abortions after an embryo's cardiac activity can be detected, which is usually around six weeks, before many women even know they are pregnant.

It was passed by the Republican-dominated state legislature in 2019 and went into effect in 2022 after the US Supreme Court struck down the nationwide right to the procedure.

The Supreme Court's abortion ruling unleashed a wave of restrictions in nearly two dozen of the 50 US states, and abortion rights have become a key issue in the November presidential election between Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Kamala Harris.

McBurney's ruling would have once again allowed abortions in Georgia up until fetal viability, which is around 22 weeks of pregnancy.

"Liberty in Georgia includes... the power of a woman to control her own body, to decide what happens to it and in it, and to reject state interference with her healthcare choices," the judge said.

"That power is not, however, unlimited," he added. "When a fetus growing inside a woman reaches viability, when society can assume care and responsibility for that separate life, then -- and only then -- may society intervene."

Monica Simpson, executive director of the SisterSong Women of Color Reproductive Justice Collective, which brought the case challenging the six-week abortion ban, denounced the Georgia Supreme Court's decision as "unconscionable."

"Every minute this harmful six-week abortion ban is in place, Georgians suffer," Simpson said. "Denying our community members the lifesaving care they deserve jeopardizes their lives, safety, and health."

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Big Tech is upending the clean energy landscape
Utility Dive · (narvikk via Getty Images)

Akshat Kasliwal, Jesse Gilbert, and Anirudh Mathur
Mon, October 7, 2024 

Akshat Kasliwal, Jesse Gilbert, and Anirudh Mathur are renewable energy asset valuation experts at PA Consulting.


One of the year’s flashiest developments in the power sector is Constellation Energy’s plan to restart Unit 1 at its infamous Three Mile Island nuclear facility by 2028 in order to provide 24/7 carbon-free energy to fuel Microsoft’s growing data center fleet across the Mid-Atlantic. For many industry observers, however, this news did not come as a surprise.

The ravenous electricity demands of hyperscale data centers needed for artificial intelligence, coupled with the deep pockets and aggressive sustainability goals of Big Tech companies like Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Meta, have led them not only to become the leading buyers of renewable power — accounting for more than 50% of deals nationwide — but also to disrupt the renewable energy landscape in ways that are simultaneously encouraging and disconcerting.

After two decades of flat electricity demand, the proliferation of AI has fueled unprecedented load growth expectations across much of the country. The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, the power region for most of Texas, expects a staggering 60% increase in demand from data centers within five years. PJM Interconnection earlier this year tripled its forecast for electricity demand, with the highest load increase expected to come in Virginia, home to the world’s largest data center market. Booming demand translates to higher prices for power generators, particularly in regions that are flush with new data centers, like West Texas, which has historically been known for cheap and abundant electricity. Capacity prices across PJM spiked nearly ten-fold in the most recent auction.


Given Big Tech’s ambitious decarbonization goals — by 2030, Microsoft intends to be carbon negative and Google plans for carbon-free energy usage — there is soaring demand for clean energy, a great boost for renewable project developers. Brookfield, a major renewable power generator, recently announced the largest-ever renewable energy deal, agreeing to sell over 10.5 gigawatts of clean power to Microsoft between 2026 and 2030; nearly three times New York State’s current solar and wind capacity.

Another advantage of Big Tech’s thirst for energy is the growing trend of data centers locating adjacent to contracted renewables or nuclear facilities, often referred to as a “behind-the-meter” arrangement. These setups allow data centers to receive physical delivery of green power that might otherwise be curtailed, improving the utilization of renewable capacity.


Finally, Big Tech companies are leveraging their financial strength to invest in innovative power generators and storage systems, such as nuclear fusion and enhanced geothermal. Google and Microsoft, for example, have formed a coalition to accelerate the adoption of novel clean technologies, aiming for around-the-clock carbon-free energy.


Yet, these opportunities are intertwined with significant challenges. Big Tech has leveraged its market influence and sophisticated analytical abilities to morph renewable power purchase agreements from simple contracts into complex structures that shift considerable risks onto renewable developers. These novel contracts expose renewable projects to increased spot market exposure, countering the original intent of power purchase agreements, which were designed to limit market exposure and offer revenue certainty.

Under Big Tech’s renewables purchasing dominance, contract terms have become increasingly intricate and tailored to the complex and varied needs of these offtakers. By extension, the embedded risks have also become far more challenging to assess.

Empirically, some of these contractual considerations have already become commonplace across the spectrum of sophisticated offtake counterparties. These can include:

extremely short contract terms and potential “re-contracting” risk due to uncertain data center demand, chip-set efficiency and forward-thinking offtakers demanding new electricity sources;


curtailment risk where project aren’t compensated when forced to limit output;


price floors that limit negative market price protection for projects; and


non-settlement provisions (exposing projects to negative market prices during high output).


Some other provisions are markedly quixotic:

multiple settlement points, which complicate the cost basis for a renewable energy project;


forced day-ahead settlements opening the project up to price and generation risk between anticipated and real-time outcomes;


variable offtaker demand causing volatility in a project’s revenues; and


indexation of a portion of a project’s earnings to the profitability of an on-site, back-up gas generator serving the offtaker’s demand during tight conditions.

Ultimately, these newer contract structures expose renewable project owners to greater risk, which runs counter to the original intent of purchase power agreements of offering revenue certainty to — and lowering volatility for — projects. At the same time, wholesale and retail power market outcomes are becoming more volatile and challenging to forecast, partly driven by the potential for correlated risk.

Under these novel offtake agreements, projects face greater exposure to the whims of the wholesale market — which itself is increasingly influenced by data center dynamics. Given that there are still myriad questions about the extent to which data center demand will materialize, it creates significant uncertainty in wholesale market outcomes. If data center growth projections do not materialize as anticipated, it would adversely impact the profits of energy companies. Google has warned that forecasts for data center growth in certain U.S. power regions could be double-counting demand. As Big Tech dominates energy procurement, the fortunes of renewable project owners are increasingly tied to those of the data center industry.

This concentration of risk could have far-reaching implications for both the energy market and the environment. Google recently reported material increases in its greenhouse gas emissions relative to 2019, as did Microsoft, relative to 2020, primarily due to the supply of renewables not keeping pace with growth in their data center operations. Moreover, the costs associated with upgrading the transmission and distribution system to reliably serve data centers — alongside the elevated wholesale power prices they can induce — are borne, in part, by “regular” ratepayers.

A generational transformation is underway in the renewable energy sector. The days of simply executing a power purchase agreement — to either finance a project or offset carbon emissions — are over. Today, Big Tech’s demands for specific project development plans and contractual provisions can create — or destroy — millions of dollars in value for renewable companies, a daunting prospect for a sector whose health is imperative for combating climate change.

Scientists invent artificial plant that cleans indoor air and generates electricity
Binghamton University’s artificial plant can remove CO2, produce oxygen and generate electricity (Binghamton University/ State University of New York)

Anthony Cuthbertson
Mon, October 7, 2024 

Scientists have invented an artificial plant that can simultaneously clean indoor air while generating enough electricity to power a smartphone.

A team from Binghamton University in New York created an artificial leaf “for fun” using five biological solar cells and their photosynthetic bacteria, before realising that the device could be used for practical applications.


A proof-of-concept plant with five artificial leaves was capable of generating electricity and oxygen, while removing CO2 at a far more efficient rate than natural plants.

“Traditional CO2 mitigation methods, such as ventilation and filtration, are becoming less effective as outdoor CO2 levels increase due to global warming,” the researchers noted in a study detailing the artificial plant, titled ‘Cyanobacterial Artificial Plants for Enhanced Indoor Carbon Capture and Utilisation’.

“These artificial plants use indoor light to drive photosynthesis, achieving a 90 per cent reduction in indoor CO2 levels, from 5000 to 500 ppm – far surpassing the 10 per cent reduction seen with natural plants.”

The artificial plant has similar requirements to natural plants, needing water and nutrients to operate. Future versions could include methods to minimise maintenance, like using multiple bacteria species. The scientists also hope to scale up the technology to provide greater utility.

“When these leaves are connected in series within the artificial plant structure, the system produces an OCV of 2.7 V and a maximum power of 140 µW, which is sufficient to power portable electronics,” the researchers wrote, adding that the device’s performance “demonstrates its potential as a dual-function system for improving air quality and providing sustainable energy”.

Professor Seokheun Choi from Binghamton University’s Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering said: “I want to be able to use this electricity to charge a cell phone or other practical uses... With some fine-tuning, these artificial plants could be a part of every household. The benefits of this idea are easy to see.”

The study was recently published in the scientific journal Advanced Sustainable Systems.
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How ‘Snowflake Babies’ Could Change IVF Politics

Joanna Weiss
Sun, October 6, 2024



Nearly three years into her marriage, Emily Berning suspected there was some reason why she wasn’t getting pregnant. A few highly unpleasant tests at a fertility clinic gave her the answer: Her fallopian tubes were blocked. It was a cruel irony for a onetime college anti-abortion activist who now runs an anti-abortion charity out of her Florida home.

“I really was sad about the idea of not being able to experience pregnancy,” she says. “Especially since we work with so many pregnant women — I think it’s absolutely beautiful.” But Berning didn’t want a risky surgery to unblock her tubes. And she felt uneasy about in vitro fertilization, or IVF. She firmly believes that life begins at conception, and she didn’t feel right about creating embryos that might later be destroyed.

One day, her mother-in-law, listening to a Focus on the Family radio show, discovered a path to parenthood that Berning had never imagined. An adoption agency called Nightlight Christian Adoptions had a program called Snowflakes, which specialized in donations of embryos left over from IVF. Berning could take possession of an embryo from another couple’s fertility procedure, implant it in her uterus, and give birth to the baby herself.

In some circles, these children are known as “snowflake babies,” a term Nightlight coined in reference to the way IVF embryos are stored, in subzero temperatures. They represent a small sliver of the assisted-reproduction landscape, their births largely facilitated by faith-based agencies.

And for two decades, they’ve been political symbols, used to bolster arguments about the beginning of life. In 2005, then-President George W. Bush invited 21 “snowflake babies” to the White House to underscore his opposition to stem cell research that destroyed embryos in the process of studying diseases. In 2022, the first-ever “snowflake baby” filed an Amicus brief in the Dobbs case that brought about the end of Roe v. Wade, arguing that her very existence proves that life starts at fertilization.

But now, people on both sides of the abortion wars are embracing embryo donation — not as a weapon, but as a uniting force. The practice has long been embraced by Christian families who might otherwise have qualms about IVF, because it can be seen as a solution to the most troubling part of the process: the disposal of frozen embryos. Lately, though, some advocates have been trying to spread the word about embryo donation beyond religious communities. Removing the Christian wrapping, these advocates say, would attract nontraditional families, raise hopes for would-be parents and promote an option that’s vastly more affordable than IVF.

It all points to embryo donation as one answer to a complicated moral and political calculus.

“Most people don’t know that embryo donation exists, either as a donor or a recipient. They’re just not aware. And most people will say, ‘I wish I knew about this sooner,’” says Deb Roberts, a single mother and abortion-rights supporter who gave birth to two children from donated embryos — and went on to found a non-faith-based embryo-donation agency.

I spoke this year to Berning, Roberts and other parents from across the political spectrum who have given or received IVF embryos. Their urgency to promote this practice has grown since the Dobbs decision, which encouraged some anti-abortion activists to set their sights on IVF. Last summer, the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation’s second-largest Christian denomination, passed a resolution opposing IVF. Politicians have stepped in, prompting the usual partisan squabbles: In the U.S. Senate, Republicans recently blocked a Democratic bill to protect IVF, calling it a political stunt, while Democrats accused them of putting fertility treatments in jeopardy.

But many embryo donation advocates are thinking beyond politics and are focused on the practical. What IVF represents, above all, is a path to parenthood — and in that deeply held, bipartisan desire, there’s ample room for common ground. “We do believe that these embryos are little lives that are just waiting for a chance to be born,” says Beth Button, executive director of Snowflakes. But “quite honestly, this is an option that anyone can consider — regardless of where they believe, on the spectrum, life begins.”

The vast reserve of frozen embryos in the U.S. — some estimate there are as many as 1.6 million — is an unintended consequence of IVF, a once-revolutionary, now-commonplace procedure pioneered in the 1970s. It begins when doctors surgically remove an egg from a fertility patient's body, fertilize it with sperm in a petri dish, and allow it to divide and grow. After five or six days, when it has divided into 100 to 200 cells and is technically known as a blastocyst, the embryo is transferred into a uterus, where it may or may not develop into a pregnancy.

The process is inexact enough, and costly enough, that fertility patients regularly create more embryos than they’re likely to use, leaving them with extras, sometimes dozens of them, along with a challenging set of options. They can dispose of the embryos. They can donate them to medical research. Or they can store them in canisters of liquid nitrogen at -321 degrees Fahrenheit, for months or years or even decades, at a cost of $500 to $1,000 per year.

The status of those embryos, in cryogenic limbo, has vexed some religious conservatives for decades. Louisiana has a law preventing the destruction of embryos, forcing fertility clinics to store their embryos out of state. Within the Catholic Church — which officially forbids IVF — ethicists have debated whether it’s in an embryo’s best interest to stay frozen forever, and questioned whether destroying an embryo is equivalent to taking an adult off life support.

But many religious couples have used IVF to build their families; Button notes that, despite any edicts from Rome, there are plenty of Catholics among her Snowflakes donors and recipients. Indeed, the concept of “embryo adoption” began in the 1980s with a deeply religious couple that had gone through unsuccessful fertility treatments. They asked their clinic if they could use another family’s embryos, but they wanted to know the family’s medical history, which health care privacy laws didn’t allow. And, more pointedly, they wanted to treat the embryos as lives, ready to be placed in a new home.

So they approached the director of Nightlight Christian Adoptions, who happened to be a friend. The agency helped create an agreement that would embed a property transfer — because, in every state, embryos are technically property — into a process that looked and sounded like adoption.

To do that, Snowflakes developed a detailed matching process to link donors and recipients. Families create presentations about themselves. They list their preferences for a matching family’s race, religion and marital status, and cite the level of communication they’d want after a baby is born (many choose ongoing relationships, sharing photos and videos and even planning visits). Donors submit blood work and provide a medical history. Recipients submit to a home study.

“We’re vetting families,” Button explains, “and this is giving peace of mind to the families placing embryos with us.”

On its website, the American Society for Reproductive Medicine says that using adoption terminology to describe embryo donation is “inaccurate and misleading.” But many self-described “snowflake families” say the adoption framework is what drew them to the program and helped them work through the complex emotions involved.

After Sterling and Eileen Osborn, a couple in Connecticut, gave birth to two boys through IVF, they were stunned to learn that they had five extra embryos and a wrenching new set of decisions to make. Destroying the embryos “was not an option for us,” says Eileen, a former music teacher. “To me, it’s still a potential life, and I would want to give any child a chance to live.” Still, it was hard to get their heads around the implications of embryo donation. Could they bring themselves to part with their genetic material? Did they have the moral right to choose who would parent their embryos? What if, later in life, their sons accidentally met their biological siblings?

“It’s an absolute emotional rollercoaster,” Sterling told me. “It’s as much of emotional rollercoaster as going through the initial process of IVF.” The Osborns wound up donating their embryos, through Snowflakes, to a couple in California. Months later, they got a notification that the couple had given birth to twins: a boy and a girl. “They’re people,” Eileen told me, describing how the news hit her. “They’re into this world now, there are pictures, and this is definitely real.”

Berning, 29, loved the idea of imagining embryos grown into people. She and her husband founded a nonprofit called Let Them Live, which offers pregnant women money for food, rent and other bills, along with financial counseling, if they’ll pledge not to have abortions. Her extended family has experience with traditional adoption; Snowflakes seemed an extension of that idea.

“It didn’t make sense for us to create our own embryos when there are other embryos existing,” she says. “My husband and I are just huge advocates of life at every stage.”

When I asked her about the Southern Baptists’ resolution opposing IVF, Berning told me she’d thought hard about it and decided that she agrees. “The dignity for human beings trumps anyone’s desire to have a family, and that includes us,” she told me. “If there were no embryos to adopt, then that would be that.”

That’s why, amid the donation process, she’s struggled to square her desire to be a parent with the clinical realities of fertility medicine. “The casual language of ‘Oh, we can just discard them,’ or ‘Oh, your tissue transfer,’” she says. She hates the terminology around judging embryos’ viability, “where these ones are ‘low grade.’ I would never refer to a human being as ‘low grade’ and destined for destruction.”
 
Berning heard it all last year, after she acquired a set of 15 embryos and prepared for the implantation process. The embryos had been frozen in 1995, which meant that they were technically as old as she was. Thirteen stopped growing as soon as they were thawed. The remaining two were implanted.

Berning sent me a picture of herself, beaming as she holds up a picture of the embryos. But when she took a pregnancy test two weeks later, she learned the embryos hadn’t successfully implanted. She posted a video of herself on TikTok, sobbing when she got the news. They were going to have to try again.

It took Roberts multiple tries, too, before she was able to get pregnant via a donated embryo. A Colorado marketing executive who is single and Jewish, Roberts had gone through many unsuccessful IVF attempts by the time she was in her 40s. Calculating her age and the cost of the procedures, she realized that embryo donation might be her last, best chance at motherhood. But she found that fertility clinics lacked the time or expertise to match families, vet the embryos or manage the transfer process. She tried some faith-based embryo donation agencies; one turned her away because she wasn’t married and one told her she’d face a three-year wait. (Button says Snowflakes warns single parents and LGBTQ+ couples that they might have to wait to find a willing donor.)

So Roberts reached out to friends and acquaintances, posted a call for embryos on Facebook and got multiple offers of embryos to spare. She found lawyers to help navigate a combination of property law — accounting for the fact that human tissue can’t legally be bought or sold — and family law that would give her full custody of any children who resulted. She handled the logistics, at one point carting a canister of frozen embryos from one clinic to another in the front seat of her car, strapped into the seat belt.

She wound up giving birth to a son, and two years later, a daughter, from the same batch of embryos — “full biosiblings,” she calls them. Then she started her own agency, Embryo Connections, and set up a process that’s in many ways similar to Snowflakes’: questionnaires for placing families and “intended parents,” medical tests to track donors’ genetic history, evaluations to make sure only the most viable embryos are donated.

One difference is that Roberts doesn’t use the term “adoption.” (The process also doesn’t involve adoption law, she notes, so there are no legal provisions for typical adoption practices like visitation.) Still, she applied for a grant from a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services program called “Embryo Adoption Awareness and Services,” created by Congress in 2002 amid debates over stem cell research. The $1 million annual appropriation has traditionally gone to faith-based groups. But this year, Roberts’ agency is one of three secular recipients. The other two, Embryo Solution and Empower, are also led by battle-scarred veterans of IVF.

Collectively, their goal is to change embryo donation from a niche practice — of the roughly 133,000 embryos transferred through IVF in 2021, 2.4 percent had been donated, according to the CDC — to a widespread option. So far, their clients range from heterosexual married couples to gay men using surrogates, older single women whose own eggs aren’t viable, and couples who considered a sperm or egg donor but prefer “genetic equity”: each parent contributing equally, or not at all, to the genetic makeup of their child. Donation could also appeal to prospective parents who would consider traditional adoption but balk at the expense and the long waiting time, Roberts says.

Alena Wright, a neuroscience researcher in Wisconsin who runs Embryo Solution, says donation would help middle-class families who can’t easily spend tens of thousands of dollars on fertility procedures: Acquiring donated embryos costs around $10,000, compared with $20,000-$30,000 for a typical IVF cycle. “Research shows that only 25 percent of the U.S. population can afford IVF. Seventy-five percent cannot afford it,” Wright told me. “That’s shocking. That’s what motivates me. We’re not talking about a small marginalized group that’s underserved.”

For donors, the incentive is emotion, Roberts says. After going through a physically and emotionally torturous IVF process and emerging with a happy ending, many parents want to pay the gift forward. And they’re more likely to want to donate their embryos, she says, if they’ve put them through genetic testing that reveals their gender. “They feel like they’re more connected. Once you know the sex, it feels more like a person,” she says.

Still, she’s deliberate about her language. An embryo, she says, represents just one of many steps in a tenuous physical journey to life. The American Society of Reproductive Medicine notes that in natural reproduction, 70 percent of fertilized embryos don’t result in live births. Roberts knows, from her own long and painful experience, that many IVF embryos fail to grow, as well.

“They’re potential,” she says. “It’s not a question of ‘life begins at a certain point.’ It’s just that they have the potential to be children.”

That’s why she was dismayed at an Alabama Supreme Court ruling last February that equated embryos with children. “Do they really understand what an embryo is and what its success rates are in general, from fertilization to an actual positive pregnancy test and an actual first ultrasound? How many embryos are lost in that process?” Roberts says. “It seems to me that they really don’t understand IVF.”

The case, LePage v. Center for Reproductive Medicine, centered on a fertility clinic in Mobile where a patient wandered into a “cryogenic nursery,” opened a tank where IVF embryos were stored and picked up some containers. Shocked by pain from the cold, he dropped the containers on the floor, destroying the embryos in the process. Three patients sued the clinic under an 1872 Alabama law called the Wrongful Death of a Minor Act.

The state Supreme Court, overturning a trial court ruling, declared that the law “applies to all unborn children, regardless of their location.” Alabama fertility clinics immediately stopped operations, fearing liability, not just for accidents, but for the IVF process itself. Fertility doctors across the country fretted that their work could be in jeopardy.

Would-be embryo donors and recipients also panicked. Button says Snowflakes donors called to ask if their embryos would have to stay frozen forever. Wright says potential donors who had been on the fence signed up to start the process before it disappeared. Maya Grobel, who co-founded the agency Empower, heard from clients who wondered if they should ship their embryos to a “safe state.”

Republicans, in Alabama and across the country, quickly scrambled to proclaim their support for IVF. Within weeks, the Alabama Legislature had passed a law protecting fertility clinics from liability, though it didn’t address the thorny issue of the start of life. Every Republican U.S. senator signed a statement supporting access to the procedure, and Republican Sens. Katie Britt and Ted Cruz filed a bill last spring that would cut off Medicaid funding for states that ban IVF. Former President Donald Trump recently called himself a “leader on fertilization, IVF” and said he wants to make the process free.

But Trump’s stance has angered some anti-abortion conservatives. And those intra-party divisions are the consequence of a policy path that started 50 years ago with efforts to overturn Roe v. Wade, says Sean Tipton, director of policy and advocacy at the American Society for Reproductive Medicine.

“It’s a dilemma when you have hung your ideological hat on ‘the fertilized egg is a child’ and then people become aware of fertilized eggs in a freezer,” Tipton says. “Instead of saying ‘the fertilized egg is a baby,’ they now have to say, ‘the fertilized egg is a baby, but we love IVF’ … Because they can read opinion polls. They know everybody loves their grandchildren.”

Opinion polls indeed show broad support for IVF, including among Republicans; a Pew poll last May found that 70 percent of Americans, across religious and political lines, think access to IVF is “a good thing.”

But some embryo donation advocates, both religious and secular, agree that there might be ways to curb the number of new embryos that enter into storage every year. One anti-abortion lawyer described the fertility industry to me as the “wild, wild west of unregulation.” Wright notes that the U.S. doesn’t limit the number of embryos that can be created in any given cycle, as some other countries do. And both doctors and patients have incentives to create a large surplus of embryos — due to the cost, the physical stress of retrieving eggs and the high chance that a fertilized egg won’t make it through the process.

“There’s nothing to stop an embryologist from creating 30 embryos for a family in their 40s that only wants one kid,” Button says. “This is what we’re dealing with now, and embryo adoption is a great solution.” She says some donor families have told her that “if we had known about embryo adoption, we wouldn’t have done IVF. We would have come straight to Snowflakes.”
 
Roberts says she hears the same sentiment from some secular families: “Whether they’re religious or not, we get people who say, ‘There are so many embryos out there. Why would I create more?”

Roberts is surprised that, amid the current hand-wringing over IVF, more people aren’t talking about embryo donation. “I’ve been shocked at all the news coverage about ‘Can we destroy embryos?’ ‘What is the legal right for embryos?’ And nobody’s saying, ‘Well, what are the options?’” she says. “It’s weird that the conversations stop at ‘When does life begin?’ but not ‘What do we do in these situations on either side?’”

But those conversations are happening, at least in some meeting rooms and living rooms. Button pointed me toward a little-noticed line in the Southern Baptists’ anti-IVF resolution: Parents who are struggling with infertility should “consider adopting frozen embryos” instead.

And Berning, still working with Snowflakes, has acquired a new set of 10 embryos — frozen in 2006 — so she can start the process again. She’s getting ready for a transfer in January. “I’m hoping,” she told me, “this round will end up with having a beautiful baby.”

SEXUAL POLITICS
Harris says it’s ‘not the 1950s anymore’ in dismissing criticism over not having biological children

Ebony Davis and Jack Forrest
CNN
Sun, October 6, 2024 



Kamala Harris said she feels “sorry” for Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who suggested at a town hall with former President Donald Trump last month that the vice president doesn’t have anything to keep her humble because she doesn’t have biological children.

“I feel sorry for her, and I’m going to tell you why,” Harris said on an episode of the “Call Her Daddy” podcast released Sunday. “Because I don’t think she understands that there are a whole lot of women out here who one, are not aspiring to be humble. Two, a whole lot of women out here, who have a lot of love in their life, family in their life and children in their life, and I think it’s very important for women to lift each other up.”

Responding to Republicans who have criticized her for not having biological children, Harris told podcast host Alex Cooper, “I feel very strongly, we each have our family by blood and then we have our family by love. And I have both. And I consider it to be a real blessing.”

The Democratic presidential nominee has two stepchildren – Cole and Ella Emhoff – through her 10-year marriage to second gentleman Doug Emhoff. She detailed during the interview, which was taped on Tuesday, her “very modern family” and her relationship with her “two beautiful children,” who she noted refer to her as “Momala.”

“I love those kids to death. Family comes in many forms, and I think that increasingly, all of us understand that this is not the 1950s anymore,” Harris said.

Sanders, the Republican governor of Arkansas, said last month that her three children serve as a “permanent reminder of everything that is at stake in this country” and that “my kids keep me humble. Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn’t have anything keeping her humble.”

The former Trump White House press secretary’s argument that children serve as reminders of what matters in an election, which alluded to the vice president’s lack of biological kids, was reminiscent of repeated comments made by Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance. The Ohio Republican has received criticism for his past remarks that the US was being run by “childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made.”

Harris’ appearance on the “Call Her Daddy” podcast, which has a reputation for frank conversations about sex and relationships, comes as her campaign prioritizes booking interviews with local media and more unconventional forums. That strategy has garnered both criticism for dodging challenging interviews and praise as a savvy messaging move.

The interview marked the start of a media spree, as Harris will make appearances this week on “The View,” “The Howard Stern Show,” “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,” a Univision town hall and CBS’ “60 Minutes.”
Harris talks abortion rights

As Harris’ campaign looks to place reproductive rights at the center of its platform, the vice president used her appearance on “Call Her Daddy” — which Spotify has billed “the most listened-to podcast by women” — to hit her opponent on an issue where she has so far held the upper hand.

During the interview, she criticized Trump for casting himself as a “protector” during a rally last month where he claimed American women won’t be “thinking about abortion” if he’s elected.

“So he, who, when he was president, hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade, and they did just as he intended,” Harris told Cooper.

Harris added: “This is the same guy that said women should be punished for having abortions. This is the same guy who uses the same kind of language he does to describe women?”

Cooper was surprised when Harris told her she became the first sitting US president or vice president to visit a reproductive health center when she went to a Minnesota Planned Parenthood clinic in March.

Harris also debunked false statements from the former president accusing Democrats of wanting to allow the execution of babies after birth, calling the notion a “boldface lie” and “insulting.”

“That is not happening anywhere in the United States,” Harris said, adding, “Can you imagine, he’s suggesting that women in their ninth month of pregnancy are electing to have an abortion?”

While both Trump and Vance have claimed that Democratic states are allowing such abortions, no state has passed or is passing a law that allows the execution of a baby after it is born, and killing a person after birth is illegal in every state.

CNN’s Arit John, Eva McKend, Brian Stelter and Daniel Dale contributed to this report.



Kamala Harris Defends All Forms of Motherhood in Powerful “Call Her Daddy” Interview

Rosa Sanchez
BAZAAR
Mon, October 7, 2024 

Kamala Harris Defends All Forms of Motherhood in Powerful “Call Her Daddy” Interview


Kamala Harris is not holding back.

In what felt like a natural move in a youth-focused campaign, the Democratic nominee for president made a historic appearance on the Call Her Daddy podcast on Sunday—and while there, doubled down on her support for all kinds of families, mothers, and women.

Harris fiercely criticized Republican opponent Donald Trump’s stance and past comments on abortion, but the most powerful part of the interview came when podcast host Alexandra Cooper asked the vice president how she feels about Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders’s recent remarks about her. For context, Sanders tried to paint Harris in a negative light by saying at a town hall that she (Sanders) stays humble because of her children, but because Harris has no biological children of her own, she “doesn’t have anything keeping her humble.”


“I feel sorry for her, and I’m going to tell you why,” Harris told Cooper of Sanders. “Because I don’t think she understands that there are a whole lot of women out here who one, are not aspiring to be humble. Two, a whole lot of women out here, who have a lot of love in their life, family in their life and children in their life, and I think it’s very important for women to lift each other up.”

Harris has two beloved stepchildren, Cole and Ella Emhoff, through her 10-year marriage to second gentleman Doug Emhoff. And this is not the first time in her political career that she has been questioned or attacked by Republicans for not having birthed children. Just look at Trump running mate J.D. Vance’s recent comments ridiculing the “childless cat ladies” whom he says are running the country into the ground.

Responding to the ongoing criticism, Harris said in the interview: “I feel very strongly, we each have our family by blood and then we have our family by love. And I have both. And I consider it to be a real blessing.” She added that she and Emhoff have a “very modern family” and her relationship with her “two beautiful children,” who refer to her as “Momala,” is sacred.

“I love those kids to death. Family comes in many forms, and I think that increasingly, all of us understand that this is not the 1950s anymore,” Harris said.

Kamala Harris Slams Criticism About Being Childless

Hayley Santaflorentina
Mon, October 7, 2024 

Originally appeared on E! Online

Vice President Kamala Harris isn’t leaving her family up for debate.

After Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the Governer of Arkansas, made comments implying the 2024 Democratic presidential nominee doesn’t have kids of her own—despite her blended family with husband Doug Emhoff including his children, Cole, 30, and Emma, 25—Harris slammed what she felt to be an outdated point of view.

“I feel very strongly, we each have our family by blood and then we have our family by love,” Harris told Alex Cooper during Call Her Daddy’s Oct. 6 episode. “I have both. And I consider it to be a real blessing. I have two beautiful children who call me ‘Mamala.’”

“We have a very modern family,” she noted, before quipping, “My husband’s ex-wife is a friend of mine.”

The 59-year-old also reflected on how her own childhood changed her approach to step parenting.

“I’m a child of divorced parents,” Harris explained. “When I started dating Doug, I was very thoughtful and sensitive to making sure that until I knew that our relationship was something that was going to be real, I didn’t want to form a relationship with the kids and then walk away from that relationship.”

She continued, “My own experience tells me that children form attachments and I wanted to be thoughtful about it. So I waited to meet the kids. And they are my children and I love those kids to death.”

Justin Sullivan/Getty Images

Because, as she noted, there is no one way to define family.

“Family comes in many forms and I think that increasingly, all of us understand that this is not the 1950s anymore,” Harris added. “Families come in all shapes or forms and they are family nonetheless.”

And the Vice President also had a response for comments made by President Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance, in which the Republican nominee for vice president referred to Harris as a “childless cat lady” for not having biological children.

“I just think it’s mean and mean spirited,” she told Cooper. “And I think that most Americans want leaders who understand that the measure of their strength is not based on who you beat down, the real measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you lift up.”


Kamala Harris Says Donald Trump Is ‘Full of Lies’ on ‘Call Her Daddy’ Podcast: ‘I Just Have to Be Very Candid With You’

Michaela Zee
VARIETY
Sun, October 6, 2024 


Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris appeared in a new episode of Alex Cooper’s “Call Her Daddy” podcast, where she spoke about abortion rights, student loan forgiveness and remarks made by Donald Trump and JD Vance.

In the episode, released Sunday, Harris criticized former President Trump’s stance on women’s rights and reproductive freedom, particularly following the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

At one point, Harris commented on Trump repeating the false claim during September’s presidential debate that Democrats support states “executing” babies after they are born.

“That is not happening anywhere in the United States. It’s a bold face lie. Just a boldfaced lie that he is suggesting,” Kamala said. “Can you imagine he’s suggesting that women in their ninth month of pregnancy are electing to have an abortion? Are you kidding? That is so outrageously inaccurate and it’s so insulting to suggest that that would be happening and that women would be doing that. It’s not happening anywhere.”

“This guy is full of lies,” Harris continued, referring to Trump. “I mean, I just have to be very candid with you.”

Harris also responded to Trump telling women, “You will be protected, and I will be your protector,” at a rally on Sept. 23.

“So he, who, when he was president, hand selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe V. Wade and they did just as he intended and there are now 20 states with Trump abortion bans, including bans that make no exceptions for rape or incest, which we just discussed, which means that you’re telling a survivor of a crime with a violation of their body, they don’t have a right to make a decision about what happens to their body next, which is immoral,” Harris said on the podcast. “So, this is the same guy that is now saying that, this is the same guy that said women should be punished for having abortions. This is the same guy who uses the same kind of language he does to describe women? So yeah, there you go.”

Elsewhere in the interview, Harris reacted to Republican vice presidential candidate Vance’s “childless cat ladies” comment he made in a 2021 interview with Tucker Carlson. “I just think it’s mean and mean spirited,” she said. “And I think that most Americans want leaders who understand that the measure of their strength is not based on who you beat down, the real measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you lift up.”

Listen to the full “Call Her Daddy” podcast with Vice President Harris below:


Kamala Harris Reacts to J.D. Vance’s ‘Childless Cat Ladies’ Viral Remark In 'Call Her Daddy' Episode

NBC
Updated Sun, October 6, 2024 

Kamala Harris is the latest guest for “Call Her Daddy.” Ahead of the 2024 Presidential Election, which is less than a month away, the Vice-President sat down with Alex Cooper for the Oct. 6 episode of her popular podcast, “Call Her Daddy.” The two women discussed a variety of topics, from reproductive rights in the United States to the Democratic presidential nominee’s late mother’s influence to her former career as a prosecutor. The Vice President also reacted to personal attacks by her opponent, former President Donald Trump, who criticized her identity and character. “I think it’s really important not to let other people define you. And usually those people who will attempt to do it don’t know you,” Harris said. Before the interview began, Alex addressed her listeners acknowledging that she knows their political views are mixed, but said she felt that she had to engage in the important dialogue. “I will be honest; I had been going back and forth with this decision for a while to get involved or to not get involved. But at the end of the day, I couldn't see a world in which one of the main conversations in this election is women and I'm not a part of it.” She added that her goal was not to change her audience’s political affiliations, but hopes they can listen to the conversation, which she notes isn’t too different than the ones they have every week. The podcast host also said she reached out to Trump to come on the show and have a meaningful, in-depth discussion surrounding women’s rights.


Harris Slams Trump’s Claim That He’s a ‘Protector’ of Women on ‘Call Her Daddy’ Pod Cast

Althea Legaspi
ROLLING STONE
Sun, October 6, 2024


Kamala Harris rejected Donald Trump’s recent claims where he told women, “You will be protected, and I will be your protector,” which he said while campaigning in Pennsylvania last month. “This is the same guy who said that women should be punished for having abortions,” Harris said as a guest on the popular Call Her Daddy podcast hosted by Alex Cooper, which was released on Sunday.

Cooper quoted the former president’s remarks and asked Harris, who is running neck-and-neck against Trump in the presidential race, “What do you make of that?”

Harris didn’t hesitate to quickly and succinctly break it all down. “So, he who when he was president, hand selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v Wade, and they did just as he intended,” she began, addressing the question.


“And there are now 20 states with Trump abortion bans, including bans that make no exception for rape or incest, which we just discussed, which means that you’re telling a survivor of a crime, of a violation to their body, they don’t have a right to make a decision about what happens to their body next, which is immoral,” she added.

“So, this is the same guy that is now saying that. This is the same guy who said that women should be punished for having abortions. This is the same guy who uses the kind of language he does to describe women. So yeah, there you go,” she concluded.

Cooper said during her intro before her 40-minute conversation with Harris that she “went back and forth” on whether or not to address politics or interview politicians at all for her podcast, but she said she felt “the conversation I know I’m qualified to have is the one surrounding women’s bodies and how we are treated and valued in this country.”

Cooper also said that her team reached out to Trump to be interviewed on her show. “If he also wants to have a meaningful, in-depth conversation of women’s rights in this country, then he is welcome on Call Her Daddy anytime,” she said.

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