Sunday, January 20, 2008

It's Not Wrong

Sorry but this is not wrong.

Torture manual wrongly includes allies: Bernier

Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier has distanced his department from one of its training manuals that lists the United States and Guantanamo Bay as places of torture.
The US uses waterboarding. Which is torture just ask the noted authority on torture; John McCain.

McCain denounced waterboarding as clear-cut torture:

“Anyone who knows what waterboarding is could not be unsure. It is a horrible torture technique used by Pol Pot and being used on Buddhist monks as we speak,” said McCain after a campaign stop at Dordt College here.

“People who have worn the uniform and had the experience know that this is a terrible and odious practice and should never be condoned in the U.S. We are a better nation than that.”

But of course the Conservatives wanting to be in the good books with the Bush White House will do their bidding and revise the truth. What is wrong is denying the truth.

The CIA's "enhanced" interrogation techniques = TORTURE

Of course knowing that Gitmo is a place of torture we now have to ask why Minister Bernier has been silent over the fate of Omar Khadr. Changing the manual will not change the fact this Canadian citizen is being held illegally by the U.S. and probably tortured.

And while we are discussing waterboarding I wonder if the Harpocrites would like to test it out on themselves to see if it is torture. They would probably come to this conclusion.

Torture: Not a tough call


Although other senior Bush administration officials (such as Attorney General Michael Mukasey) seem unsure as to whether the practice of waterboarding is torture, Mike McConnell, director of National Intelligence, has taken a public stance against it. Sort of.

McConnell, who seems to be among the few who apply the Golden Rule in his thoughts on torture, told New Yorker magazine that, if he were being waterboarded, he'd consider it torture.

"If I had water draining into my nose, oh God. I just can't imagine how painful! Whether it's torture by anyone else's definition, for me, it would be torture." He says that using "special methods" of interrogation has yielded "meaningful information" and adds that the U.S. does not torture prisoners.

And yet, there's the matter of the taped interrogation the CIA destroyed, which shows the use of techniques most of us would consider torture.

Ok Minister Bernier if waterboarding is not torture then give us a demonstration with you as the subject. Yep changed your mind did you.

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ken said...

This is just a bit of Conservative political correctness. Allies by definition cannot torture hence when Bush and Israel claim they do not torture it is always true.
I am not surprised by Bernier. Is it Maxine or Maxime? However Rae takes the cake. He blames the Conservatives for not pre-emmptively censoring the document to remove the offending passages!
So if Liberals are elected we can expect pre-emptive censorship!

eugene plawiuk said...

It's Maxime thanks for pointing that out I corrected in the link.