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Wednesday, October 19, 2022

Are flat-earthers being serious?

Stephanie Pappas
Mon, October 17, 2022


Of all the conspiracy theories that litter the Internet, the flat Earth conspiracy is quite possibly the most curious. After all, the ancient Greeks figured out the planet's shape (and even its circumference) in the third century B.C.

But a fringe society founded in the 1950s, dedicated to insisting that the Earth is flat, has given rise to a modern ground of flat Earth adherents. These believers claim that the Earth is a flat disc, and that evidence that it is round — say, pictures taken from space — are an elaborate hoax involving multiple governments. Opinions differ on exactly how the flat Earth works, with believers concocting elaborate versions of physics and creative interpretations of the solar system to make their theories work.

No one knows how many flat Earth believers are out there. According to Smithsonian Magazine, membership in the Flat Earth Society, founded in 1956, once reached 3,500 people. Today, the society claims more than 500 members on its roster. But some believers want nothing to do with the Flat Earth Society, according to a 2019 CNN article, with some attendees of the Flat Earth International Conference in Dallas that year telling the news agency that the organization is a government-sponsored front designed to make Flat Earthers look bad. (The Flat Earth Society responded to this by telling CNN, "We are not a government-controlled body. We're an organization of Flat Earth theorists that long predates most of the FEIC newcomers to the scene.")

Who are flat-earthers?


As the Flat Earth Society/Flat Earth International Conference schism reveals, flat-earthers are not a monolithic group. The current president of the Flat Earth Society, Daniel Shenton, is a Londoner who now lives in Hong Kong. Robbie Davidson, who organizes the annual Flat Earth International Conferences, is a Canadian who espouses a Biblical worldview and opposes what he calls "scientism."

A 2017 national poll by Public Policy Polling found that only 1% of Americans believed the Earth was flat, with an additional 6% saying they weren't sure. There was very little evidence of differences in this belief by political affiliation, with any differences between Trump voters, Clinton voters and third-party voters falling within the poll's margin of error of 3.2%.

A 2018 article in the Colorado Sun on a flat Earth convention in Denver found that many attendees believed a whole suite of conspiracy theories, such as that all politicians are actors and that powerful shadowy forces control the world.

Flat-earthers occasionally get a boost from celebrity believers. For instance, on Jan. 25, 2016, rapper-singer Bobby Ray Simmons Jr. (known as B.o.B) released a track called "Flatline" in which he disses astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, after the two had a Twitter battle over the spherical-ness of the planet. B.o.B is convinced Earth is flat. A day earlier, the rapper tweeted: "No matter how high in elevation you are... the horizon is always eye level ... sorry cadets... I didn't wanna believe it either." In 2018, NBA player Kyrie Irving had to apologize after causing a media controversy by speculating that the Earth was flat on a 2017 podcast.

Flat Earth map

This flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893 is also considered the Bible Map of the World.
(Image credit: CalimaX / Alamy)

The leading flat-earther theory holds that Earth is a disc with the Arctic Circle in the center and Antarctica, a 150-foot-tall (45 meters) wall of ice, around the rim. NASA employees, they say, guard this ice wall to prevent people from climbing over and falling off the disc. (In keeping with their skepticism of NASA, known flat-earther conspiracy theorist Nathan Thompson approached a man he said was a NASA employee in a Starbucks in mid-May 2017. In a YouTube video of the exchange, Thompson, founder of the Official Flat Earth and Globe Discussion page, shouted that he had proof the Earth is flat — apparently saying an astronaut drowning was that proof — and that NASA is "lying.")

Furthermore, Earth's gravity is an illusion, they say. Objects do not accelerate downward; instead, the disc of Earth accelerates upward at 32 feet per second squared (9.8 meters per second squared), driven up by a mysterious force called dark energy. Currently, there is disagreement among flat-earthers about whether or not Einstein's theory of relativity permits Earth to accelerate upward indefinitely without the planet eventually surpassing the speed of light. (Einstein's laws apparently still hold in this alternate version of reality.)

As for what lies underneath the disc of Earth, this is unknown, but most flat-earthers believe it is composed of "rocks."

It's worth noting that all of the above is completely contentious even within the flat Earth community. "None of us believe that we're a flying pancake in space," Davidson told CNN in the 2019 article. At the Flat Earth International Conferences, it's more common to believe that space simply does not exist at all and the disc of the Earth sits still, he said. One speaker at the 2018 FEIC even argued that Earth is neither a sphere nor a disc, but instead is shaped like a diamond, according to The Guardian.
Do flat-earthers think the moon is flat?

Earth's shadow partially covers the moon as viewed from the ISS

Flat Earth opinions about the moon vary. Some think that while Earth is flat, the moon and sun are spheres, Live Science's sister site Space.com reported. In this vision of the solar system, Earth's day and night cycle is explained by positing that the sun and moon are spheres measuring 32 miles (51 kilometers) that move in circles 3,000 miles (4,828 km) above the plane of the Earth. (Stars, they say, move in a plane 3,100 miles up.) Like spotlights, these celestial spheres illuminate different portions of the planet over a 24-hour cycle. Flat-earthers believe there must also be an invisible "antimoon" that obscures the moon during lunar eclipses.

On YouTube, there are videos pointing to shadows in pictures of the moon and arguing that the moon is transparent, and thus just a light. One speaker at the 2018 conference attended by a Guardian reporter made a case for the moon as a projection.
What is the Zetetic Method?

If flat-earthers seem hard to dissuade based on standard scientific evidence, there's a reason for that: flat Earth theorizing follows from a mode of thought called the "Zetetic Method." The Zetetic Method is an alternative to the scientific method, developed by a 19th-century flat-earther, in which sensory observations reign supreme.

"Broadly, the method places a lot of emphasis on reconciling empiricism and rationalism, and making logical deductions based on empirical data," Flat Earth Society vice president Michael Wilmore, an Irishman, told Live Science in 2017.

Our world would get weird fast on a flat Earth. Navigation could get trickier, as GPS satellites wouldn't work on a flat Earth; And what about gravity? You’d expect that to change, and if gravity instead pulled toward the planet’s center, you’d have oddly slanted trees and even sideways rain. With no gravity, Earth would not be able to hold onto an atmosphere and skies would likely turn black. (Image credit: How It Works)

In Zetetic astronomy, the perception that Earth is flat leads to the deduction that it must actually be flat; the antimoon, NASA conspiracy and all the rest are just rationalizations for how that might work in practice.

Those details make the flat-earthers' theory so elaborately absurd it sounds like a joke, but many of its supporters genuinely consider it a more plausible model of astronomy than the one found in textbooks. In short, they aren't kidding.

"The question of belief and sincerity is one that comes up a lot," Wilmore said. "If I had to guess, I would probably say that at least some of our members see the Flat Earth Society and Flat Earth Theory as a kind of epistemological exercise, whether as a critique of the scientific method or as a kind of 'solipsism for beginners.' There are also probably some who thought the certificate would be kind of funny to have on their wall. That being said, I know many members personally, and I am fully convinced of their belief."

Wilmore counts himself among the true believers. "My own convictions are a result of philosophical introspection and a considerable body of data that I have personally observed, and which I am still compiling," he said.

Wilmore and the society's president Shenton both think the evidence for global warming is strong, despite much of this evidence coming from satellite data gathered by NASA, the kingpin of the "round Earth conspiracy." They also accept evolution and most other mainstream tenets o
How we know the Earth is NOT flat?

On July 30, 2021, Shenzhou 12 astronaut Tang Hongbo photographed the spectacular scenery of thousands of lights in North Africa, clearly showing the curvature of Earth.
(Image credit: Tang Hongbo/China Manned Space Engineering Office)

Despite the claims from flat-earthers, there are plenty of ways to know that the world is round. One quick option is to check out NASA's image library, which is chock-full of nice, curvy pictures of the globe taken from the International Space Station. If NASA is hoaxing everyone, they're committed to the bit.

Don't trust NASA? The Russians also snap pictures of the round Earth, Space.com reported. So does Japan's space agency. And China's.

For the flat-earther convinced that all these countries put aside their political tensions in order to maintain the fiction of a spherical Earth, there are also ways to check on the planet's shape with one's own eyes. One of the simplest is to go to a harbor and watch the ships depart. As a ship disappears over the horizon, the bottom of the ship will go first, followed gradually by the mast.

Related: 8 ways life would get weird on a flat Earth

You can also take a page out of the ancient Greeks' book. Ancient Hellenistic philosophers figured out that the world had to be a globe based on a few observations. One was that the stars aren't the same in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres: From opposite halves of the Earth, you're clearly looking out at different quadrants of space. Another was that Earth's shadow on the moon's surface during lunar eclipses is curved.


Two images of the night sky in the northern and southern hemispheres.

The Greeks even figured out how to calculate an approximate circumference of the Earth with no fancier tools than a stick and the light of the sun. By measuring the angle of a shadow cast by the sun at the same time and day in two cities a known distance apart, the philosopher Eratosthenes was able to calculate that the planet's circumference was between 24,000 and about 29,000 miles (38,600 and 46,670 kilometers). (It's actually 24,900 miles.) The very fact that the angle of the sun differs on different parts of the planet indicates that we're all sitting on a globe.

Conspiracy theory psychology

A man in a tinfoil hat hunches over a laptop

As inconceivable as their belief system seems, it doesn't really surprise experts. Karen Douglas, a psychologist at the University of Kent in the United Kingdom who studies the psychology of conspiracy theories, says flat-earthers' beliefs cohere with those of other conspiracy theorists she has studied.

"It seems to me that these people do generally believe that the Earth is flat. I'm not seeing anything that sounds as if they're just putting that idea out there for any other reason," Douglas told Live Science.

She said all conspiracy theories share a basic thrust: They present an alternative theory about an important issue or event, and construct an (often) vague explanation for why someone is covering up that "true" version of events. "One of the major points of appeal is that they explain a big event but often without going into details," she said. "A lot of the power lies in the fact that they are vague."

The self-assured way in which conspiracy theorists stick to their story imbues that story with special appeal. After all, flat-earthers are more adamant that the Earth is flat than most people are that the Earth is round (probably because the rest of us feel we have nothing to prove). "If you're faced with a minority viewpoint that is put forth in an intelligent, seemingly well-informed way, and when the proponents don't deviate from these strong opinions they have, they can be very influential. We call that minority influence," Douglas said.

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In a study published online March 5, 2014, in the American Journal of Political Science, Eric Oliver and Tom Wood, political scientists at the University of Chicago, found that about half of Americans endorse at least one conspiracy theory, from the notion that 9/11 was an inside job to the JFK conspiracy. "Many people are willing to believe many ideas that are directly in contradiction to a dominant cultural narrative," Oliver told Live Science. He says conspiratorial belief stems from a human tendency to perceive unseen forces at work, known as magical thinking.

However, flat-earthers don't fit entirely snugly in this general picture. Most conspiracy theorists adopt many fringe theories, even ones that contradict each other. Meanwhile, flat-earthers' only hang-up is the shape of the Earth. "If they were like other conspiracy theorists, they should be exhibiting a tendency toward a lot of magical thinking, such as believing in UFOs, ESP, ghosts the Devil, or other unseen, intentional forces," Oliver wrote in an email. "It doesn't sound like they do, which makes them very anomalous relative to most Americans who believe in conspiracy theories."

Editor's Note: This article was first published on Oct. 26, 2012, and updated by Stephanie Pappas on Dec. 16, 2021 and Oct. 17, 2022.

Wednesday, February 23, 2022

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QAnon fans don't want flat Earth 'conspiracy nutters' to be associated with their movement: new book

Sarah K. Burris
February 23, 2022


QAnon followers might believe that JFK Jr. is going to be resurrected to join Donald Trump on the 2024 presidential ticket, but they really want the crazy flat-Earthers out of their movement.

The Daily Beast's Will Sommer and Asawin Suebsaeng interviewed Kelly Weill about her new book, out this week, Off the Edge: Flat Earthers, conspiracy culture, and why people will believe anything. Weill revealed that there is trouble in conspiracy paradise and while it might be perfectly acceptable to wait for the return of JFK Jr., question the validity of the 2020 election, think that the COVID vaccine inserts a tracking chip in your body, or even that Hillary Clinton drinks the blood of children in a Washington pizza parlor's basement — "the Earth is flat" is too far.

In the podcast "Fever Dreams," Weill brought up the first time she learned about the flat-earth movement and interviewed a man arrested for handing out flat-earth propaganda on a school playground.

She began by explaining that after studying the flat-earth movement for the past two years found that the conspiracy world isn't exactly the most welcoming and "big tent" group.

Weill explained that a lot of people come to the flat-earth movement but ultimately become more and more engaged, pushing people in their lives away because it becomes an all-encompassing world. Instead of talking about football with family, for example, the flat Earth is all that matters to them.

"I thought flat-earth was an interesting parable about how people can believe anything," she said. There are other conspiracy theories that are more "reality-adjacent" and that it's easy to walk through the path of how someone got to the conclusion, based on their political beliefs. "But flat earth seemed so out there that I wanted to understand it better."

So, those in modern political conspiracies are a lot like the flat-earth movement in that there are people "who feel at odds with the reality that they live in and they want to be able to blame a person or a group for persecuting them. So, in a lot of ways, flat-earth is almost interchangeable with a lot of conspiracy theories that we deal with every day at work."

She went on to explain that there is a lot of overlap in the conspiracy world with flat-earthers and that it has even increased over the years. She cited one Facebook post she saw saying, "Globers = Antifa." Globers are what flat-earthers call those who believe our planet is round.

While at a flat-earth convention she saw two QAnon people selling jewelry who confessed they aren't totally believers in the flat-earth theory, but thought that it would be a receptive community to Q. But flat-earthers conflict with Q because in a Q&A someone asked "just to shut the flat-earthers up is the Earth round?" Q made it clear "of course, the Earth is round. We're not those conspiracy nutters!" The comments were filled with dissenters.

You can access the "Fever Dreams" podcast wherever you get your podcasts and Weill's book is on sale now.

Saturday, February 29, 2020

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To 11 million Brazilians, the Earth is flat

AFP / Florence GOISNARD"Flat-Earthers are the smartest. Write that!" says Anderson Neves, a 50-year-old entrepreneur who is convinced that the Earth is flat
Sitting by a model of the Earth shaped like a pancake, Brazilian restaurant-owner Ricardo lets out an exaggerated laugh: "'Hahaha!' That's how people react when you tell them the Earth is flat," he says.
Ricardo, who declines to give his full name for just that reason, is a 60-something man whose restaurant in Sao Paulo has become a meeting place for people who, like him, reject the notion that the Earth is a sphere.
"The only things I know for certain are that I'm going to die someday and that the Earth is flat," he says.
It is a curious but remarkably large club: more than 11 million people in Brazil -- seven percent of the population -- believe the Earth is flat, according to polling firm Datafolha.
And their influence stretches surprisingly far, in a country currently swept up in the post-truth era and the anti-intellectual, climate-change-skeptic worldview embodied by far-right President Jair Bolsonaro.
One of Bolsonaro's most prominent ideologues, the writer and former astrologer Olavo de Carvalho, has said he "cannot refute" Flat-Earth theory.
Yet Brazil's Flat-Earthers are also a secretive, at times paranoid, community, communicating via encrypted messages on WhatsApp, invitation-only Facebook groups and especially on YouTube, where their channels have tens of thousands of followers.
There, they are free to state what they believe, without fear of ridicule: that the Earth is a flat, stationary body.
It is an argument they advance with varying interpretations of physics, optics and the Bible, dismissing all evidence to the contrary as a conspiracy.
- 'Humankind's greatest lie' -
Brazilians who believe the Earth is flat are mostly men, often Catholics or evangelical Christians, and with relatively low levels of education, according to Datafolha.
But don't confuse education with knowledge, the Flat-Earthers warn.
"Flat-Earthers are the smartest. Write that!" says Anderson Neves, a 50-year-old entrepreneur, who has come to Ricardo's restaurant armed with a pamphlet denouncing the "hoaxes" of Newton and Copernicus.
"A malignant pseudo-science has corrupted the education system around the world," says another text he is carrying.
It calls the idea of a round Earth "humankind's greatest lie, dictated by the global elite."
Next to him, Ricardo's Flat-Earth model shows the sun and Moon as little balls, equal in size, suspended above a disc-shaped planet.
"Just look at the horizon. Climb a mountain and take pictures. You can see the Earth isn't curved," says Neves, clutching a level to illustrate his point.
NASA/AFP/File / Nick HAGUEFlat Earthers give little credit to photographs of the Earth taken from space, and are convinced that NASA is perpetrating a giant fraud
The Flat-Earthers are brimming with counter-factual questions: If the Earth is rotating at 1,700 kilometers (1,000 miles) per hour at the equator, why doesn't the movement make everything fly off? If it's a sphere, why can't we see the curve from an airplane?
They give little credit to photographs from space or scientists' answers about gravity, Foucault's pendulum and two millennia of astronomical observation.
"We've known for certain the Earth isn't flat since Galileo, since the early 17th century. But the ancient Greeks had pieced it together more than 2,000 years ago," says astronomer Roberto Costa of the University of Sao Paulo.
"To scientists, this (Flat-Earth theory) seems more like a topic for psychologists or sociologists to study. The Earth's shape isn't a scientific problem to astronomers."
- Tilted Eiffel Tower? -
One of the most prominent of Brazil's Flat-Earthers is Afonso de Vasconcelos, a geophysicist with a PhD from the University of Sao Paulo.
Vasconcelos is based in the United States, which is also home to a large community of Flat-Earthers. One of them died last week attempting to launch himself more than 1,500 meters (nearly a mile) into the sky in a homemade rocket.
Vasconcelos operates a YouTube channel called "True Science" (Ciencia de Verdade) where he expounds his ideas to 345,000 followers.
Fellow YouTuber Siddhartha Chaibub, "Professor Flat-Earth" (Professor Terra Plana), has nearly 30,000 followers. Last November, Chaibub helped organize the first-ever convention for Brazilian Flat-Earthers, which drew hundreds of people in Sao Paulo.
One of the favorite targets for Flat-Earthers' conspiracy theories is NASA. They accuse the US space agency of pulling a giant fraud.
"Man never landed on the Moon. That was a studio set," says Ricardo.
As for satellite images showing Earth's curvature from space, he demands: "Where's the tilted Eiffel Tower?"

Monday, December 05, 2022




Fact check: Flat Earth claim misunderstands Earth's motion, shape, gravity
Story by Kate S. Petersen, USA TODAY • 

The claim: Earth isn't curved or moving; air pressure couldn't exist 'without a container'

Some social media users are sharing a meme that claims to present evidence that Earth is flat instead of spherical.

"Earth can’t be a spinning space ball if there is no curve, motion or gas pressure without a container," reads the caption on a Sept. 27 Instagram post that garnered more than 900 likes in two months.

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On a picture of the Earth titled "Space Ball Earth Top Failures," the post lists a series of statements that purportedly support the long-debunked theory that Earth is flat.

These statements include claims that Earth's curve and movement can't be measured. The meme also states that gas pressure – ostensibly referring to Earth's atmospheric pressure – is not possible without a "container."

But these claims are wrong. Earth's curve and movement are detectable through various means, according to researchers. And Earth's atmospheric pressure is caused by gravity.

USA TODAY reached out to the Instagram user who shared the post for comment.

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Earth is a globe shape that curves

Earth's curve is directly observable, but because of Earth's size, observers have to get about 40 miles above the surface to see it, Jason Steffen, a mathematician and physicist at the University of Nevada, previously told USA TODAY.

"You have to be about a percent or so higher than the radius of the surface of the Earth (to see the curve)," he said. "40 miles is 1% of the curvature of the radius of the Earth."

Humans and spacecraft that have reached these heights have photographically documented Earth's curve.

Earth's curve can also be observed during a lunar eclipse, Steffen said in a Q&A published on the University of Nevada website. Earth's shadow appears round on the moon regardless of the time of year, time of night, or direction the shadow moves.

"The only object that casts a circular shadow no matter how you shine a light across it is a sphere," he said. "Any other shape would not be able to cast a round shadow under this variety of circumstances."

In addition to being directly observable, Earth's curve is predicted by the laws that govern gravitational force. Self-gravity pulls all of Earth's mass towards its center, ultimately forming a spherical shape.

Fact check: Soda experiment does not disprove existence of gas planets

Earth moves through space and rotates

Contrary to the post's claims, Earth moves as it orbits the sun, and, on a larger scale, the center of the Milky Way galaxy, Rebekah Dawson, an astronomer at Pennsylvania State University, told USA TODAY in an email.

"One way we can detect Earth's motion around the sun is through parallax," she said. "As our position changes, the apparent position of nearby stars relative to more distant ones changes as well. We can also (observe) the apparent motion of different stars to work out how we're orbiting around the center of the galaxy."

Earth rotates in addition to moving through space. And this movement is evidenced by the behavior of Earth's atmosphere.

"If the Earth did not rotate and remained stationary, the atmosphere would circulate between the poles – high-pressure areas – and the equator – a low-pressure area – in a simple back-and-forth pattern," reads the NOAA website. "But because the Earth rotates, circulating air is deflected. Instead of circulating in a straight pattern, the air deflects toward the right in the Northern Hemisphere and toward the left in the Southern Hemisphere, resulting in curved paths."

This process helps drive the formation of Earth's jet streams – east-west flowing bands of wind in the upper atmosphere, according to the National Weather Service.

Fact check: Ample evidence the Earth is round and rotating, contrary to persistent social media claims

Air pressure is because of gravity

The Instagram post also states that gas pressure can't exist without a "container."

However, "gas pressure doesn't need a container to be generated," Elise Knittle, an Earth and planetary sciences professor at University of California, Santa Cruz, told USA TODAY in an email.

She said atmospheric pressure on Earth "is generated by moving gas molecules subject to the Earth's gravity," which draws the molecules downward toward Earth.

One readily observable clue that Earth's air pressure is because of gravity rather than pressurization in a container: air pressure on Earth decreases as elevation increases.

"As you go up higher into the atmosphere, there are fewer molecules and the mass of the atmosphere above you is less," Knittle said. "The number of air molecules ... is reduced and the atmospheric pressure goes down."

This kind of difference doesn't form in a pressurized container, she said. Instead, the pressure is the same throughout.

Fact check: A compass is oriented to the Earth's magnetic field lines, doesn't prove flat earth

Our rating: False

Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that Earth isn't curved or moving, and air pressure couldn't exist on Earth "without a container." Ample evidence, including photos, atmospheric processes, lunar eclipses and the movement of stars, demonstrates Earth's curve and motion. Gas pressure in Earth's atmosphere is caused by gravity pulling matter toward the planet's core, so there's no need for a "container."

Our fact-check sources:
Rebekah Dawson, Nov. 8-14, Email exchange with USA TODAY
Elise Knittle, Nov. 9-12, Email exchange with USA TODAY
Jason Steffen, Nov. 10, Phone interview with USA TODAY
Olga Kalashnikova, Nov. 15, Email exchange with USA TODAY
National Geographic, accessed Nov. 7, Atmospheric Pressure
West Texas A&M University, Sept. 14, 2015, Why don't I feel the miles of air above me that are crushing me down?
Space. com, Jan. 21, How fast is the Earth moving?
Space.com, Jan. 11, What Is Parallax?
Scientific American, March 27, 2020, Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, accessed Nov. 8, Change in the atmosphere with altitude
USA TODAY, Nov. 17, Fact check: Ample evidence the Earth is round and rotating, contrary to persistent social media claims
University of Nevada, Las Vegas, March 11, 2019, Round Earth Clues: How Science Proves that our Home is a Globe
Space. com, April 22, 2013, Earth From Space: Classic NASA Photos
NASA, accessed Nov. 18, Why are planets round?
National Weather Service, accessed Nov. 18, The jet stream
NOAA, accessed Nov. 21, The Coriolis Effect
National Weather Service, accessed Nov. 21, Global Circulations

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1 of 18 Photos in Gallery©Manish Swarup, AP

A bird flies past a partial solar eclipse in New Delhi, Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2022. The partial solar eclipse or Surya Grahan on Oct. 25 marks the last solar eclipse of the year.

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Fact check: Flat Earth claim misunderstands Earth's motion, shape, gravity

Wednesday, June 29, 2022

Flat-Earth videos show how conspiracy theories spread, and can help us fight disinformation


Studying how flat Earthers talk about their beliefs, we can learn what makes disinformation spread online.

Carlos Diaz Ruiz

Around the world, and against all scientific evidence, a segment of the population believes that Earth’s round shape is either an unproven theory or an elaborate hoax.

Polls by YouGov America in 2018 and FDU in 2022 found that as many as 11 per cent of Americans believe the Earth might be flat.

It is tempting to dismiss “flat Earthers” as mildly amusing, but we ignore their arguments at our peril.

Polling shows that there is an overlap between conspiracy theories, some of which can act as gateways for radicalisation. QAnon and the great replacement theory, for example, have proved deadly more than once.

By studying how flat Earthers talk about their beliefs, we can learn how they make their arguments engaging to their audience, and in turn, learn what makes disinformation spread online.

In a recent study, my colleague Tomas Nilsson at Linnaeus University and I analysed hundreds of YouTube videos in which people argue that the Earth is flat.

We paid attention to their debating techniques to understand the structure of their arguments and how they make them appear rational.

One strategy they use is to take sides in existing debates.

People who are deeply attached to one side of a culture war are likely to wield any and all arguments (including truths, half-truths and opinions), if it helps them win.

People invest their identity into the group and are more willing to believe fellow allies rather than perceived opponents – a phenomenon that sociologists call neo-tribalism.

The problem arises when people internalise disinformation as part of their identity. News articles can be fact-checked, but personal beliefs cannot. When conspiracy theories are part of someone’s value system or world view, it is difficult to challenge them.



The three themes of the flat-Earth theory

In analysing these videos, we observed that flat Earthers take advantage of ongoing culture wars by inserting their own arguments into the logic of, primarily, three main debates.

These debates are longstanding and can be very personal for participants on either side.

First is the debate about the existence of God, which goes back to antiquity, and is built on reason, rather than observation.

People already debate atheism v faith, evolution v creationism, and Big Bang v intelligent design.

What flat Earthers do is set up their argument within the long-standing struggle of the Christian right, by arguing that atheists use pseudoscience – evolution, the Big Bang and round Earth – to sway people away from God.

A common flat Earther refrain that taps into religious beliefs is that God can inhabit the heavens above us physically only in a flat plane, not a sphere.

As one flat Earther put it: They invented the Big Bang to deny that God created everything, and they invented evolution to convince you that He cares more about monkeys than about you … they invented the round Earth because God cannot be above you if He is also below you, and they invented an infinite universe, to make you believe that God is far away from you.

The second theme is a conspiracy theory that sees ordinary people stand against a ruling elite of corrupt politicians and celebrities.

Knowledge is power, and this theory argues that those in power conspire to keep knowledge for themselves by distorting the basic nature of reality.

The message is that people are easily controlled if they believe what they are told rather than their own eyes.

Indeed, the Earth does appear flat to the naked eye. Flat Earthers see themselves as part of a community of unsung heroes, fighting against the tyranny of an elite who make the public disbelieve what they see.

The third theme is based on the “freethinking” argument, which dates back to the spirited debate about the presence or absence of God in the text of the US constitution.

This secularist view argues that rational people should not believe authority or dogma – instead, they should trust only their own reason and experience.

Freethinkers distrust experts who use “book knowledge” or “nonsense math” that laypeople cannot replicate.

Flat Earthers often use personal observations to test whether the Earth is round, especially through home-made experiments. They see themselves as the visionaries and scientists of yesteryear, like a modern-day Galileo.

Possible counterarguments

Countering disinformation on social media is difficult when people internalise it as a personal belief.

Fact-checking can be ineffective and backfire, because disinformation becomes a personal opinion or value.

Responding to flat Earthers (or other conspiracy theorists) requires understanding the logic that makes their arguments persuasive.

For example, if you know that they find arguments from authority unconvincing, then selecting a government scientist as a spokesperson for a counterargument may be ineffective.

Instead, it may be more appealing to propose a home-made experiment that anyone can replicate.

If you can identify the rationality behind their specific beliefs, then a counterargument can engage that logic.

Insiders of the group are often key to this – only a spokesperson with impeccable credentials as a devout Christian can say that you do not need the flat-Earth beliefs to remain true to your faith.

Overall, beliefs like flat-Earth theory, QAnon and the great replacement theory grow because they appeal to a sense of group identity under attack.

Even far-fetched misinformation and conspiracies can seem rational if they fit into existing grievances.

Since debates on social media require only posting content, participants create a feedback loop that solidifies disinformation as points of view that cannot be fact-checked.

Carlos Diaz Ruiz, assistant professor, Hanken School of Economics

This article is republished from The Conversation under a Creative Commons licence. Read the original article.

Saturday, December 21, 2019

Chile's air force chief: 'We may never know' what happened to lost Hercules
The commander-in-chief of the Chilean Air Force has warned that the struggle to recover the remains of a Hercules that crashed en route to the Antarctic two weeks ago could make it difficult to ever determine what happened to the plane.


FILE PHOTO: Debris believed by the Chilean Air Force to be from a Hercules C-130 military cargo plane that crashed this week and went missing, is seen in the Drake Passage or Sea of Hoces, Mid-Sea in this undated handout received on December 11, 2019. Fuerza Aerea de Chile (Chilean Air Force) /via REUTERS

SANTIAGO (Reuters) - The commander-in-chief of the Chilean Air Force has warned that the struggle to recover the remains of a Hercules that crashed en route to the Antarctic two weeks ago could make it difficult to ever determine what happened to the plane.

The Hercules C-130 cargo plane, which was carrying 17 crew members and 21 passengers, disappeared shortly after taking off on Dec. 9 from the southern city of Punta Arenas in Chilean Patagonia.

Extreme weather conditions, including low clouds, strong winds and massive, rolling ocean swells initially complicated search efforts, but within days an international team had recovered some debris, personal effects and human remains 30 kilometers (18.6 miles) south of where the plane last made contact.


This week the investigators began underwater searches in the Drake Sea, a vast untouched ocean wilderness off the southernmost edge of the South American continent that plunges to 3,500 meters (11,500 feet).

The commander-in-chief of the Chilean Air Force, Arturo Merino Núñez, said that because more debris had not yet been found, it was possible they would “never know” what happened to the plane. “Hopefully, it will not come to that,” he added.

“From what we have found and given the context, the truth is that the plane suffered a complete collapse that caused it to disintegrate, either in the sea or in the air,” he said.


If larger parts of the plane debris were found, he said, “it would allow us to disregard the less probable hypotheses and zone in on what really caused the accident.”

“At this stage all possible hypotheses are going to be studied with an open mind,” he said. “We are all pilots and want to know what happened to the aircraft to take corrective measures, if there were any to take. That is also very distressing for us because we have to continue operating the plane, Antarctic campaigns have to continue.”
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