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Friday, June 12, 2026

 

LONG READ: The Post-Pax Americana Interregnum has already started

LONG READ: The Post-Pax Americana Interregnum has already started
Empires tend to last about 100 years before they fade and fall. The Pax Americana is 80 years old and the signs that it has passed its peak are multiplying. A new interregnum has started and will bring several decades of tension, slower growth and possibily war. / bne IntelliNews





By Ben Aris in Berlin June 11, 2026

Empires tend to last about a hundred years, and true to form the Pax Americana has passed its peak. What follows is several decades of instability and lower growth as the leading countries of the world vie to fill the void. The Interregnum has started. 

The Chinese, Dutch, Portugese and Briitsh empires all had their days of wealth and glory but they all faded and fell eventually. What usually follows is decades of instability, competition, increasing multipolarism and often major wars. Despite its might, the Iran war has already exposed the US as a paper tiger, albeit a well-armed one. 

How did we get here? It all started with the collapse of the socialist experiment at the end of the 1980s when 3bn communists joined 3bn capitalists to unite the world under a single ideology, maybe for the first time in history.

CapitalismOS 2.0 

The new countries installed a new operating system, CapitalismOS 2.0, and threw themselves into building a new system of peace and prosperity that can be divided into four major phases.

1990s: The collapse of Socialist experiments covered the economies of half the world and about 80% of its population. The first decade was taken up with installing new hardware: high quality, technologically advanced machinery developed in the West. Factories were modernised. Banks installed new IT systems. Fibre-optic cables overlays were put down to transform telecoms and communication. And trade logistics was built to cater to the burgeoning consumer demand. This was a golden era of globalisation and FDI as Global North companies rushed into to exploit vast new markets. But it was a hard time as the old system collapsed entirely, impoverishing anyone over 45 by destroying the socialist “cradle to grave” support system.

Noughties: By the second decade these markets began to flourish as machines whirled and cranked out never seen before goods. Investment into the hardware continued but now the emphasis shifted to installing new software to run the rapidly growing companies. Laws were overhauled. Arbitration courts were set up. Tax systems and labour codes were revamped. Market-based regulations were introduced. Capital markets were modernised and deepened. Retail flourished as market research, consumerism and advertising became a thing on the back of an emerging middle class. Local brands were born and raised, competing and then overtaking the multinational early entrants. The local market leaders began to move out of their home markets and expand regionally with an eye on eventually becoming global. IPOs at home and on foreign exchanges proliferated.

2010s: With economic success came the demands of geopolitical rebalancing as new countries wanted representation in global institutions. The new markets were putting on not just economic but military muscle. Russian President Vladimir Putin began a decade-long military modernisation programme in 2012 and China likewise has built up the PLA to the point where it is bigger than the US military. Both have developed hypersonic missiles, a class of weapon that the US has yet to develop. Increasingly they resented the West’s dual policy of trading with the new markets to make money, but lecturing them for illiberal values and punishing the reticent with sanctions. The demands for the multipolar world were born out of that rejection of the neo-colonial model that has ruled the world since the invention of the cannon and the launch of the spice ships. The most prominent example of these rising tensions was Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, when the US refused to accomodate Moscow's security demand of "never-Nato", and the festering trade war between the US and China.

2020s: What is happening this decade is that the Global South countries have moved beyond installing the Western software and are increasingly writing their own code. Traditionally, FDI brings technology transfer and skills. The idea is to bring emerging markets “up to the Western standard” but stop there. Today, the leading markets have already adopted the best in practice methods and are now moving beyond that to new and better systems. The rollout of China’s high speed rail network is a stunning example of this new operating system that surpasses anything in the "old world". Beijing's global leadership in green-tech and EV is another pragmatic example of leapfrogging existing technology. Solar panels were invented in Germany, but the last company, Meyer Burger, closed in 2024, crushed by superior Chinese technology. As these countries grew stronger, they started pushing back at the “unipolar” world order run by the US and tension rose. In Russia it came to a head with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov’s “new rules of the game” speech in February 2021, where the Kremlin threatened to break off diplomatic and trade relations with the EU if it continued to interfere in Russia’s domestic politics with its dual policy of growing trade (like gas imports) and sanctions (over issues like LGBT rights).

East-West relations have broken down. As in any interregnum, supply chains have been disrupted. The EU believed it could sanction Russia with impunity, but discovered to its cost that Russia’s inputs – especially energy – were far more deeply integrated into the global economy than anyone calculated. The boomerang effect of sanctions on Europe are now doing more damage to European economies than they are to Russia. US President Donald Trump has only catalysed a process that has seen the old value system being abandoned and the long standing post-WWII transatlantic special relationship go up in smoke. That has led to an economic decline in the Global North that cannot be easily undone.

Empires

Period

Dominant Power / Order

Rough Dates

Pax Romana

Roman Empire

27 BC – AD 180

Interregnum

Fragmentation after Rome; competing European, Byzantine and Islamic powers

AD 180 – c.1450

Pax Mongolica

Mongol Empire secures Eurasian trade routes

c.1250 – 1350

Interregnum

Post-Mongol fragmentation; rise of maritime powers

c.1350 – 1494

Pax Portugana

Portuguese maritime dominance

c.1494 – 1580

Interregnum

Iberian Union and increasing Dutch challenge

1580 – 1609

Pax Neerlandica

Dutch commercial and naval dominance

c.1609 – 1713

Interregnum

Anglo-French rivalry; no clear hegemon

1713 – 1815

Pax Britannica

British naval and financial dominance

1815 – 1914

Interregnum

World Wars and unstable multipolar system

1914 – 1945

Pax Americana

US global dominance

1945 – present (arguably weakening since c.2008)

Possible Current Interregnum

Emerging multipolar system (US, China, India, EU, others)

c.2008/2020s – ?

source: IntelliNews

Past Paxes

Looking back over the last five centuries, the great pax periods of history — Pax Romana, Pax Mongolica, Pax Britannica and Pax Americana — were all associated with the dominance of a single hegemonic power.

And there is a clear pattern: the major maritime and commercial hegemonies each lasted roughly 80-100 years. Once they fade and fall, there is an unstable interregnum that can last decades, or even as long as a century, before a new dominant power emerges.

During the pax ("peace") the hegemon provides security and stability, allowing trade networks to flourish and financial systems that underpin the international order to grow. The currency of the ruling hegemon also tends to become the currency of choice for international trade and a change of hegemon is accompanied by a change in the dominant currency.

The first and longest of these was the Pax Romana, which lasted about 207 years from 27 BC to AD 180. After more than a millennium without a comparable Eurasian hegemon came the Pax Mongolica (c.1250-1350), which connected Asia to Europe for the first time along the legendary Silk Road for a century.

The modern era saw a succession of maritime and commercial hegemonies. Portugal dominated global sea routes for roughly 86 years (1494-1580), followed by the Dutch Republic, or the Pax Neerlandica, for about 104 years (1609-1713), which turned Amsterdam into the world's first modern financial centre. After a century-long period of Anglo-French rivalry, Britain emerged victorious from the Napoleonic Wars and established the Pax Britannica, which lasted 99 years from 1815 until the outbreak of the First World War in 1914 and coloured three quarters of the globe pink.

Following a 31-year interregnum marked by two world wars and the Great Depression, the United States established the Pax Americana in 1945. That order has now lasted more than 80 years – as long as the Portuguese, Dutch and British eras – but has now reached its zenith and is starting to fade.

Post Pax Americana

The interregna carry several identifiable characteristics. They are typically marked by increasing competition among major powers, weakening international institutions, regional conflicts, trade fragmentation and uncertainty over the rules of the international system.

Economically, interregnums tend to be less efficient than hegemonic eras. Trade becomes more politicised, supply chains fragment, capital flows become less predictable and states increasingly prioritise strategic industries and national security over pure economic efficiency. Inequality grows in the interregnum as those with access to power ring fence their access to wealth and entrepreneurship becomes more difficult. Politically and militarily, interregna are often periods of experimentation and contestation. Rising powers seek greater influence while established powers resist decline. 

All of these signs are already present.

Trade: thanks to the East-West rivalry, we are increasingly living in a fractured world. The liberal free trade regimes of globalisation have given way to the transactional world view, championed by the Trump administration. At the same time, even before Trump’s Liberation Day, tariffs have been weaponised amongst allies and sanctions play the same role for enemies as major markets become more protectionist.

Supply chains: the pandemic broke supply chains and then accelerated the process of “friendshoring” as politics increasingly interfered with what were purely commercial decisions.

Capital flows: the dollar has also been weaponised by sanctions on Russia, causing a shock to the system and accelerating the de-dollarisation of trade and its share of reserves basket holdings, especially amongst the global emerging markets. Large geographical patches of dollar-free trade have emerged between countries like Russia and China that now conduct all their trade in national currencies and this is spreading throughout Asia where the yuan is rivalling the greenback. Alternatives to the SWIFT messaging service are emerging such as China’s Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS) and Russia’s Financial Communications System (SPFS).

Strategic industries: industrial policy has also been politicised. The introduction of the US CHIPS legislation was an attempt to monopolise the highest echelon of technology, but backfired badly. China has invested heavily in green-tech and EV automotive production, using state subsidies to undercut Western rivals that has caused trade imbalances to blow out alarmingly in recent years – especially between China and Europe.

Export controls: these have also been weaponised, most notably in China’s decision to throttle exports of rare earth metals (REMs) to the US after Trump threatened to impose 125% tariffs on Chinese goods. Russia banned the import of European agricultural goods in 2014 in tit-for-tat sanctions following the annexation of Crimea. More recently the Kremlin also restricted the imports of Armenian agricultural goods after the country decided to move closer to the EU, abandoning its long-standing ties with Moscow.

Weakening international institutions: Amongst the clearest indicators that the post Pax Americana interregnum has started has been Trump’s active dismantling of international institutions. He has pulled the US out of 66 international institutions, half of them leading UN institutions at the heart of international rules based order – and he hasn’t paid the US’ International Monetary Fund (IMF) fees of $4.5bn, plunging it into a budget crisis. He also pulled out of the Paris Agreements for a second time, gutting the global efforts to reverse the effects of the Climate Crisis. He has set up the Board of Peace, a multinational body, with Trump as chairman, clearly designed to undermine the authority of the UN. And a slew of other international organisation have been undermined. The World Trade Organization (WTO) that was supposed to regulate global trade is now dysfunctional. The World Health Organization (WHO) has also been scuppered by the US withdrawal. And the White House threatened to sanctions the judges of the International Criminal Court (ICC) after it issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on war crimes charges. At the same time the Global South has been frenetically setting up a raft of new rival international organs designed to challenge the Western-founded bodies: the New Development Bank (NDB, formerly known as the BRICS Bank), BRICS+, G20 (which now includes all 54 African Union states), MECOSUR, ASEAN, the Eurasian Economic Union (EUU) and a raft of smaller Global Emerging Markets Institutions (GEMIs) to coordinate trade and security relations amongst countries of the Global South.

Corruption: A study by Scottish philosopher Sir Alexander Fraser Tytler found that all democracies are doomed to die after about 200 years as the descendents of the founding fathers use their access to wealth and power to form a self-serving and self-perpetuating elite. In the US this decay is well advanced with multiple money-making corruption scandals linked to the Trump family and accusations of routine insider trading that is earing those with proximity to power hundreds of millions of dollars on every announcement the president makes. Insider trading for members of the administration is illegal in the US, but not a single politician or high official has ever been prosecuted. The American dream is dying as the famed social mobility fades away and the rich act with impunity. Society has been split by the growing income inequality. Capital has taken over from labour as the main beneficiary of economic growth and profits to create the 1%, while the middle class is being hollowed out after real incomes have stagnated since the 1970s. 

War: the US has been at war for most of its existance, but those conflicts have become bigger and more frequent in the last three decades, stepping up to a new level under Trump. Not only has he used force in Venezuela, Cuba and Iran, but he routinely threatens military action against countries that were once close allies like Canada and Greenland. The US has been already fighting a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine and threatens China over Taiwan.  

Multipolar world

As the old order starts to crumble, rather than one dominant centre, the unipolar order is giving way to an increasingly multipolar world - another classic sign of an interregnum. 

The idea of a multipolar world is at the core of both Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping's thinking, as they made clear in a jointly authored 8,000 word essay last year. And in this goal they have already been largely successful as the emerging BRICS bloc becomes increasingly powerful and coordinated. Trade is the glue that holds this new world order together. This is not the emergence of a new hegemon, but a new style of asymmetric diplomacy that is built for a world run on the principle of national self-interest ahead of shared values in an increasingly patchwork world.

It is manifest in the plethora of Global Emerging Markets Institutions being set up to run these relationships, almost all of which exclude the former hegemons. for the Global North, which is becoming increasingly fissiparous as the old order breaks down.

The rise of the rest is driving the change, as the combined GDP of the Global South has already overtaken that of the Global North in PPP (purchasing power parity) terms and will overtake in absolute terms too sometime in the next two decades. China and Russia have become global manufacturing powerhouses, after the Global North exported most of its manufacturing to the new markets – something Trump’s Liberation Day tariffs is belatedly trying to reverse. The old neo-colonialist model – politely rebranded “globalisation” – of capitalising on the wage differential between the North and South is breaking down as the income delta between North and South shrinks.

The great catch up

The United States imports $3 trillion in manufactured goods annually after it exported much of its production overseas as a result of the globalisation boom in the 1990s. That was profitable then. It’s a problem now as the geopolitical and technological landscapes shift. The problem has been made more acute as the US middle class is being hollowed out. Real incomes have stagnated since the 1970s as capital takes over from labour as the main beneficiary of economic growth and rising profits.

The Chinese in particular have embraced new technology and are pouring money into R&D: China is the largest contributor to global patent applications; Chinese patent applications surpassed US applications already in 2010. Sanctions have also forced Russia to innovate and it is catching up with the West in a number of strategic sectors. Conversely, the Draghi report highlighted Europe’s chronic underinvestment into innovation and recommended the EU invest €800bn a year for the next four years just to keep pace with China and the US. That is not happening as all the EU's spare money is going into arming Ukraine. 

For the past five centuries, Western economic dominance rested on a simple structural fact: the rest of the world was poor. Low wages in the Global South meant the Global North could export the Global South’s human capital wealth home and enrich its citizens: iPhones assembled in Shenzhen and H&M jeans stitched in Bangladesh are a lot cheaper than those made in factories in Amsterdam or Detroit.

That gap has now closed faster than anyone expected. Speaking at the St Petersburg International Economic Forum in June, Putin said: "The BRICS share of purchasing power parity in global GDP is about 40%. The share of the G7 is less than 29%."

The numbers tell a story that is simultaneously about China's extraordinary rise and about the structural limits of Western growth. The US economy has grown 2.8 times in PPP terms since 2000. China has grown ten times. India has grown ten times. The BRIC bloc as a whole has expanded roughly nine times, starting from a low base — but the base is no longer low.

The BRICS countries accounted for half of annual global GDP growth in 2021-2025, against the G7's 18%. Within that growth total, BRICS contributed 2 percentage points annually against the G7's 0.8 points. And Putin is not making those numbers up. He is citing the IMF.

The combined GDP of the BRICS Plus countries in purchasing power parity terms already overtook of the G7 in 2015 — a crossover that went largely unremarked at the time but which in retrospect marks the structural turning point of the 21st century.

The picture looks very different in nominal dollar terms. The Global North is still well ahead of the South, but given the South’s faster pace of growth, it will take about two more decades for the emerging markets to overtake the developed world in nominal terms too.  

Measured at market exchange rates rather than purchasing power parity, the US still towers over every other economy with a nominal GDP of approximately $30.6 trillion in 2025. China, despite its PPP dominance, registers $18.5 trillion in nominal terms — a gap of $12 trillion that reflects the fact that Chinese wages, services and assets are still priced far below their Western equivalents. The EU's aggregate nominal GDP of approximately $19 trillion places it broadly level with China in market-rate terms. India, the world's third-largest PPP economy, has a nominal GDP of around $4.3 trillion — barely a seventh of the US at current exchange rates. 

There are still several decades left ahead before the Global South can claim to fully take over the role of hegemon from the Global North. 

While it's tempting to assume the next hegemon will be a new Pax Sinica, it is too early to say as there are several contenders and their relations remain fluid. Just amongst the BRICS, China and India are rivals and have been in a low watt war for decades and Russia and China are not natural allies. Yet the essence of the new asymmetrical diplomacy is to put these tensions aside and cooperate on an issue-by-issue basis to promote national interests and cooperate where those overlap with the other members of the Global South in overlapping spheres of influence and shifting alliances.

Changing the money

One of the strongest indicators of a hegemonic era is that the dominant power's currency becomes the preferred medium for international trade, finance, reserves and debt issuance. Interestingly, while military dominance often lasts around a century, reserve currency dominance can persist much longer.

The accelerating de-dollarisation that has already started is one of the clearest indicators that a new interregnum has begun, but the continuing importance of the dollar also shows that the changeover will be a slow process.

Rome's gold aureus became the dominant currency throughout the Mediterranean world. More important than the coin itself was the fact that merchants could trade across thousands of kilometres under a common legal and monetary system. Even after the Western Roman Empire collapsed, the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) gold solidus remained one of the most trusted currencies for centuries.

The Dutch created arguably the first modern international reserve currency. Amsterdam became the centre of global finance, and the Dutch guilder became widely accepted throughout Europe and beyond. Merchants preferred it because Dutch institutions were reliable and Dutch public finances were credible. The pound sterling became the world's first truly global reserve currency. During the nineteenth century almost half of world trade was invoiced in sterling.

What comes after the dollar? History suggests that reserve currencies are replaced only when three conditions are met:

The incumbent power weakens.

A rival economy becomes sufficiently large.

The rival provides financial markets that are deeper, safer and more liquid.

Amongst the challengers to the dollar today, only the euro and the yuan are realistic contenders. China satisfies the second condition but only partially the third. The euro satisfies some financial criteria but lacks a unified fiscal and military state behind it. As a result, the most likely feature of a post-Pax Americana interregnum may not be a replacement reserve currency but a multi-currency system.

And that is more than likely going to be a digital currency. The BRICS have already floated the BRICS Pay coin and all of its members are currently rolling out digital versions of their currencies that they intend to use to settle international trade deals. Russia has even launched an experiment with a gold-backed digital coin as another option and its use of stablecoins in international trade to dodge sanctions is growing fast.


Pax Era

Dominant Currency

Role

Pax Romana

Roman aureus, later solidus

Mediterranean trade and taxation

Pax Mongolica

No single currency

Silver, gold and paper money circulated across Eurasia

Pax Portugana

Portuguese cruzado

Maritime trade, but regional rather than truly global

Pax Neerlandica

Dutch guilder

First genuinely international reserve and trade currency

Pax Britannica

Pound sterling

Global reserve currency and unit of trade

Pax Americana

US dollar

Global reserve, trade, commodity and financial currency

source: IntelliNews

War in the Gap

Interregna are dangerous periods as major wars are much more likely to happen due to the clash of interests between the incumbent powers and the rising powers. This warning was drummed home by Xi’s warning to Trump during his state visit to Beijing in May “not to fall into the Thucydides Trap”.

The reference is to the classical historian who argued that when a rising power (Athens) meets the incumbent power (Sparta), a war is likely. Xi used the expression in comments warning the US not to interfere with China’s attempt to reunite with Taiwan. It was an explicit, albeit thinly veiled, threat that China was prepared to go to war with the US if Washington blocked China's reunification with Taiwan.

The wars already started with the US refusal to negotiate with Russia over Ukraine’s Nato status that led to the full scale invasion four years ago. But since Trump took over, he has taken the military option with increasing frequency: the decapitation and abduction of Operation Absolute Resolve on January 3 where the US government removed the sitting president of Venezuela Nicolas Maduro; the unprovoked assault on Iran with Operation Epic Fury on February 28; and the naval embargo on Cuba. That is not to mention the threats to Greenland and Canada amongst other belligerent statements. America has become the most dangerous regime in the world, according to several recent polls including the global Democracy perception index.

The classic example is the transition from Pax Britannica to Pax Americana. Britain remained powerful but could no longer dominate the international system or maintain its empire. Germany was rising rapidly, Russia was modernising, Japan was emerging as a regional power, India led by Gandhi wanted independence, and the United States had not yet assumed global leadership. The result was a 31-year interregnum (1914-1945) that included the two deadliest wars in human history and the Great Depression.

The Dutch-British transition was less catastrophic but still involved roughly a century of conflict, including the Anglo-Dutch Wars, the War of the Spanish Succession, the Seven Years' War, the American War of Independence and the Napoleonic Wars. In effect, Europe spent much of the eighteenth century determining who would dominate the nineteenth.

That said, today's world differs from previous transitions in one crucial respect: nuclear weapons. The Ukraine war has shown very clearly that a great power with nukes will not be attacked by other great powers, making great power direct clashes much less likely. But as IntelliNews has argued, it will also promote nuclear proliferation.

That is already starting to happen. The nine nuclear states are walking away from disarmament commitments amid heightened escalation dangers, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) warned in its latest report, after decades of demobilisation efforts.

“The evidence is growing that the nuclear weapon states are sidelining, and even walking away from, their disarmament commitments and are instead flexing their nuclear muscles,” said SIPRI researcher Hans Kristensen.

Russia and the US remain the overwhelming nuclear powers, together possessing an estimated 83% of warheads available for military use and nearly 86% of all nuclear weapons globally. Bizarrely, Trump has refused to counter this growing threat by allowing the last of the Cold War missile treaties to expire in February, greatly increasing the chance of a new arms race.

In place of a new WWIII, what is more likely in this interregnum is more proxy wars, economic warfare, tariffs and sanctions, cyber-attacks, technological competition and regional conflicts. In a modern interregnum, likely hot spots are the South China Sea, Taiwan, Eastern Europe, the Middle East or the Arctic rather than through direct clashes between great powers.

The greatest danger in an interregnum is not simply that a rising power becomes stronger. It is that the rules become unclear, alliances become fluid, and states increasingly misjudge one another's intentions. Most major wars in history have occurred not when one power was clearly dominant, but when several powers believed they had a chance to reshape the international order.

Claudio Katz: ‘The Argentine left must aim to govern with a strategy for power’

Myriam Bregman

First published in Spanish at Argentina Indymedia. Translation by Federico Fuentes for LINKS International Journal of Socialist Renewal.

In this interview, Claudio Katz assesses the newfound prominence in Argentine politics of Workers’ Left Front – Unity (FIT-U) MP Myriam Bregman, and outlines some of the debates on the left. Katz also examines Argentina’s political situation, its economic crisis and President Javier Milei’s declining support, within a regional framework marked by events in Cuba, Venezuela and Bolivia.

Is Argentina’s political landscape changing?

Yes. Milei’s discrediting is very obvious, even among sectors that propelled him to power. His low approval rating, various expressions of disapproval with his administration, and the early election campaigning all indicate this.

The causes are obvious: two years of a dramatic fall in consumption and a brutal transfer of income to the wealthiest has caused widespread discontent. Daily life has been dramatically disrupted. A simple trip to work is now a nightmare, with reduced services and fares rising 12 times faster than wages. The healthcare system’s collapse is even more severe. Price hikes of 400% have pushed 740,000 people out of private health care and into already overcrowded public hospitals. Many pensioners are going without medicines to pay for food.

Inequality is shameful. As fuel exports rise, so do domestic energy costs. Each new record harvest comes with more empty tables in homes, cartoneros [a person who collects waste, such as cardboard, to resell]. rummaging through bins and school canteens run short on food supplies.

Milei took his chainsaw to the country, paralysing public works. He also abandoned his last remaining campaign pledge to cut inflation. It is again hovering at about 3% a month, according to a fictitious measurement based on obsolete household costs. The government itself is fuelling inflation by imposing tariff hikes and violating its monetarist ideology, which attributes price rises to money supply. By manipulating the exchange rate, it is artificially containing a further surge.

But this has not caused his economic model to collapse…

In reality, it is creaking and the shock absorbers are wearing out. 140,000 jobs losses were offset by 100,000 new informal gig economy jobs. No economy can function with 930 businesses closing each month and disposable income collapsing, with families asked to compensate for unpayable debts.

As so many times before, the huge trade surplus has evaporated due to capital flight, and another Trump rescue package is unlikely should last year’s critical exchange rate scenario be repeated. Milei's only solution to the crisis he has created is yet more austerity cuts. With tax revenue plummeting in a stagnating economy, Milei has imposed further cuts to sustain the fiction of a fiscal surplus and avoid a debt default. He has created a vicious circle of economic contraction and poverty, with no way out in sight.

Against this critical backdrop, outrage over corruption has resurfaced…

Absolutely. There is enormous anger over embezzlement by Milei’s gang. Their thievery is so brazen that even the tax collection agency head is hiding assets from tax authorities. The Libra cryptocurrency scandal, [general secretary of the presidency] Karina Milei’s 3% kickback revelations, bribery in more than 600 contracts between the national disability agency and a Kovalivker family-owned business, Milei-backed candidate José Luis Espert’s resignation over campaign funds from a high-profile drug trafficker, all expose how a gang of thugs have taken over the state to line their pockets. The scandals around Milei’s former cabinet chief, Manuel Adorni, go beyond anything imaginable and reveal a scandalous network of salary kickbacks and private plunder. They protect each other with codes and complicity like the mafia.

Milei, however, is more furious that no one cheers his outbursts and antics anymore. He does not know how to handle defeat in the culture war. His inner circle are cynically blaming people for their misfortunes, claiming they “got themselves into too much debt”. Others reinforce the ideology of cruelty, mocking destitute pensioners.

But the huge turnout at the March 24 commemorations [of the 1976 military coup] put those stories to rest. Official denialism [of the military junta's crimes] has as little resonance as attempts to revive theories of “the two demons” [morally equating the military junta’s state violence with leftist political subversion] or dictatorship “excesses”. Milei had to shelve plans to pardon the genocide perpetrators, amid widespread demands for “Memory, Truth and Justice”. These causes are a source of pride for a society that views the trials of the junta leaders as a victory embedded in the country’s DNA.

This same pattern was repeated with the mass march for education. Milei was left isolated after provocatively calling for further cuts to the lowest education budget in 35 years. He has failed to comply four times with the law requiring him to transfer owed funds to universities, attacking institutions that embody the ideal of upward mobility in the popular imagination. Attempting to destroy the symbol of qualification, knowledge and culture that public education embodies, he is losing his audience at breakneck speed.

He is not losing the support of everyone though, because the ruling class still backs him…

That is true, but the establishment is waiting for his term to finish in a respectable manner before continuing with “Mileism” without Milei. They are already sounding out potential replacements, such as the chameleon-like [right-wing Peronist1 MP Miguel Ángel] Pichetto, the reborn [former new right president Mauricio] Macri, the enigmatic [talk show host and pastor Dante] Gebel or the ever-changing [right-wing senator Patricia] Bullrich. Some are even considering a de facto replacement, should the president fall before then. In that scenario, they would keep the government afloat with the support of state governors and the Peronist right.

But Milei is uncontrollable and refuses to give up. He seeks to survive with Trump’s blessing. He has spent more time in the United States than in any Argentine town. New concessions to his patron include contentious laboratory patents and help with business disputes with China in several provinces. Milei has assembled a group of like-minded capitalists, who are vying with [multinational conglomerate Techint CEO Paolo] Rocca, [media mogul and Clarín group CEO Héctor] Magnetto and other local capitalists to reap the benefits of privatisations. They are also competing for control over the judiciary, where disputes between them are settled.

But, as always happens in Argentina, the streets will have the final say on the political course…

Exactly. The March 24 demonstrations exceeded all expectations. An estimated more than 1 million people attended, including a broad mix of generations, refuting claims that young people are shifting right. The education marches reaffirmed this resurgence. Trade union protests in various provinces show that the negative situation created by the recently approved labour reform has been reversed, after several months of retreating from street actions. These are significant mobilisations, but they lack the scale and militancy needed to defeat Milei. There is not yet the prospect of a repeat of the 2001 rebellion [that toppled several presidents] or the 2017 electoral victory against Macri.

Another significant shift is the sudden rise of Myriam Bregman…

Yes. Her rise in the polls is significant, as she has a very high net positive image, which is boosting her voting intentions. Many analysts say Myriam’s appeal has expanded beyond the traditional left-wing or progressive electorate. They believe that the angry anti-establishment voters that supported Milei might soon channel their discontent via the left. The atmosphere, to a certain extent, resembles that around [left-wing MP Luis] Zamora in the years before and after 2001. There are plenty of reasons to launch a major campaign in support of Myriam’s presidential candidacy. All the left agrees we need to shore up this prominence in the coming months.

There have been debates, expressed through various open letters and documents, on the strategic significance of this campaign. What is your view?

There is discussion on the need for Bregman to shift her discourse to show a genuine intent to become president. Such a positive tone requires an affirmative message, highlighting how the left can govern. This approach distinguishes between government and power, and calls on the people to take hold of both. The challenge lies in working out a strategy to achieve this objective.

Some participants in the debate have taken a negative view. They believe the Workers’ Left Front – Unity (FIT-U) should not seek to govern, as it has no viable policy to achieve that goal. Such pessimism simply repeats the right’s tired arguments against the left and fails to recognise potential shifts in the battle for power.

Is this pessimism being reconsidered?

We will have to see. The traditional Trotskyist view sees the struggle for government and power as two simultaneous processes, occurring in close succession. This is the 1917 Bolshevik model: revolution, soviets, the storming of the Winter Palace and the immediate launch of a socialist process. Calls to deepen the struggle, with hopes that popular power will emerge from below, are premised on repeating this.

Some documents reformulate this possibility, presenting Myriam’s candidacy as a link in the chain. They propose a positive campaign, presenting her winning the presidency as closely tied to a revolutionary upsurge. This is the reason for proposing “Committees to fight for a workers’ government, with Bregman as president”.

The obvious objection is this view is unrealistic. There are no signs, as yet, this could occur. But this sensible criticism can lead to the wrong conclusion of abandoning any effective campaign for the presidency. Some documents reject running such a campaign, instead arguing that the focus should be simply on recruitment while reaffirming the idea that elections are merely a platform to spread socialist ideas.

More moderate versions of this position argue that now is not the time to win government, because the social support needed to implement a revolutionary program does not exist in the current climate. They say the left should instead prioritise the immediate building of a party to address this weakness. I disagree with these positions, which I think help perpetuate the left’s political marginalisation.

What is your position?

Basically, fight to win the elections and form government as a means to initiate a struggle for power. A victory at the ballot box that is grounded in popular mobilisation and grassroots organisations would allow us to start the struggle to seize economic, judicial, military and media power. This is a clear, forceful strategy and, above all, one understood by the majority of the population. It avoids abstract debates about whether the conditions exist to advance the socialist project, because it situates that objective within an unpredictable course of events.

We do not know whether conditions for the classic revolutionary model to unfold will materialise. It is just as misguided to dismiss that possibility as it is to stake everything on it. Reaching government and contesting power views that path as a stage in the socialist project. The left may soon be in a position where it can and must govern with a strategy for power. But the most realistic approach is to assess contexts, taking into account the recent history of our country and region.

Which is?

In Argentina, the 2001 uprising. This was a revolt involving assemblies, picket lines and widespread grassroots organisations. This in turn led to an electoral process and the subsequent Kirchnerist cycle [of centre-left administrations headed by Nestor Kirchner (2003-07) and Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner (2007-15)]. It seems to me the left had no strategy then to intervene in elections. We should not repeat that mistake.

In contrast, Evo Morales became president in Bolivia and [Hugo] Chávez was elected in Venezuela. Their paths were similar to Salvador Allende in Chile. This path was greatly debated throughout the 20th century in terms of assessing the concrete meaning of a workers’ government. In my view, this path aligns, converges or complements — but is in no way counterposed to — the revolutionary dynamics in Russia, China, Vietnam or Cuba.

But the obvious objection would be that those attempts failed to combine the electoral path with revolutionary development…

That is not a valid objection, in my opinion. With that abstract yardstick, every left political process failed. All of them faced limits, setbacks and frustrations at some point. Was Leon Trotsky’s path a success? It seems to me there is a bad habit in polemics to attack an opponent’s failures, without considering one’s own shortcomings. It is not enough to say, for example, that Peronism has failed, without providing an example, national or international, that one considers successful.

If Myriam can consolidate her prominence on the political stage, these shortcomings will be overcome, especially if the left sets more ambitious goals in line with the position it could potentially occupy. This is not just a question of electing more MPs, but winning elections at the district, municipality or provincial level in 2027, and from there launching a campaign to win government at the national level and contest for power. Achieving these goals requires alliances and coalitions that go beyond just the left.

If the FIT-U significantly expanded its electoral base, it would have to clarify its positions on a potential run-off between a progressive centre-left and right-wing presidential candidate. This is not an immediate issue, as Myriam’s positive presidential campaign supposes that she will make it into that second round. But it is essential to develop a position for what typically happens in second round run-offs in Latin America. In that scenario, we cannot hesitate in calling for a vote against the right. Refining strategies is unavoidable in a regional context marked by dramatic events.

Are you referring to the threat of an imperialist attack on Cuba?

Yes. Trump has already stated his intention to take the island and do with it as he pleases. His naval fleet has surrounded Cuba and the US has fabricated a charge against Raúl Castro to pave the way for kidnappings, targeted assassinations or even an invasion. The tycoon needs to make up for his defeat in Iran. This means he could intensify the embargo and oil blockade through military action. The island is preparing for resistance. We must step up our solidarity initiatives here.

Marches are planned, supplies are being sent, and solidarity gestures are multiplying. But the FIT–U should demonstrate a more explicit and visible commitment by, for example, having Bregman visit Cuba, just like [Peronist left-wing leader Juan] Grabois did. This would have a major impact and constitute an important gesture regionally, following Nicolás Maduro's kidnapping.

What is your view on the situation in Venezuela?

To call it “worrying” would be an understatement. We all know that the government has a gun to its head after Maduro’s abduction. We assumed that [Acting President] Delcy [Rodríguez] was buying time, gathering strength and preparing to launch a counter-offensive. We interpreted the concessions to Trump as the heavy and unavoidable cost of such a strategy.

But several months on, the evidence is rapidly mounting that a different path has been taken. This includes a suspicious reorganising of the military command, the foreign ministry’s whitewashed statements on the war against Iran, the release of right-wing conspirators from prison, and the much-celebrated meetings with the empire’s emissaries.

While the head of the [US military] Southern Command talks with Delcy, there is total silence about the humiliating image Trump posted of Venezuela as the “51st state”. The final straw was the mock evacuation of the US Embassy, with Pentagon aircraft flying in the skies over Caracas. It is forgotten that the guest carrying out these operations holds Venezuela’s president hostage.

Furthermore, laws have been passed benefiting US companies in terms of appropriating oil profits. Oil profits are funnelled on a large-scale to the US Treasury, while the IMF resumes inspections.

Criticisms of all this mainly come from within Chavismo’s heart. Luis Britto García has called for transparency over Maduro’s abduction and demands explanations for the government’s appeasement of Trump. Former Vice-President Elías Jaua has insisted Venezuela is under occupation, with Washington planning a protectorate. Lastly, the handover of financier Alex Saab to US courts is completely unjustified. He kept foreign trade circuits open amid the empire’s sanctions. If he committed a crime, he should be tried in Caracas, not held in a prison cell near Maduro.

There are too many signs of a regressive shift to ignore. This should be discussed openly. Continuing to discuss whether there was a betrayal leads us nowhere. What matters is how we characterise this in political terms. Perhaps we could look at what happened after Sandinismo’s first electoral defeat as a precedent for Venezuela today.

Fortunately, we have encouraging developments in Bolivia…

Yes. The popular uprising is truly remarkable. Six months into the right-wing government’s term, there is a huge uprising against austerity, which again demonstrates the strong tradition of militancy in the Altiplano [Bolivia’s western highlands].

This rebellion has laid siege to La Paz, through radical methods of struggle such as roadblocks and mass demonstrations. Protesters demand the president resign for failing to fulfil his mandate and are acting with the force needed to bring the oppressors to their knees. The confrontation is ongoing; the government is using the military to crack down on the streets, issuing arrest warrants for leaders and deploying equipment supplied by Milei.

Remember that in recent decades, Bolivia has paved the way for regional cycles of struggle. At the turn of the century, Bolivia kicked off the wave of rebellions that then swept through Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina. A few years ago it spearheaded a second wave, which then saw rebellions in Ecuador, Chile, Colombia and Peru.

Today, Bolivians are once again taking the lead, against a backdrop of important resistance in Chile, just a few months before [far-right incoming president José Antonio] Kast takes office. The rebellion in Bolivia transcends borders, challenges Trump’s agenda and strikes a blow against his far-right henchmen. It is charting a path that the Argentine left has already adopted as its own.

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    Peronism has been the dominant political force in Argentine politics since the rise to power of President Juan Domingo Perón in 1946. Currently in opposition, it has also been the main ruling party since the end of the military dictatorship in 1983. As a broad political movement, it encompasses a wide spectrum of politicians (from right-wing to centre-left and progressive), including the previous centre-left administrations of Nestor Kirchner (2003-07) and Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner (2007-15).

The anti-capitalist left surge in Argentina and the letter that sparked a crucial debate

Tuesday 9 June 2026, by Eduardo Lucita, Israel Dutra


Against the backdrop of a Javier Milei government in crisis and Peronism’s [1] decline, polls are showing a surge in support for Myriam Bregman, a Workers’ Left Front – Unity (FIT-U) MP. With between 9–14% support and a strong social media presence, the FIT-U is emerging as an alternative for millions. However, historic difficulties that have plagued Argentina’s radical left have also re-emerged. Despite its combativeness, the radical left remains fragmented and, in some cases, very sectarian.

Israel Dutra interviewed veteran Argentine revolutionary Eduardo Lucita about Argentina’s emerging political landscape. Lucita is a Fourth International member and co-coordinator of Argentina’s Left-Wing Economists (EDI) collective. Lucita, along with other comrades, initiated a debate with an open letter addressed to the parties in the FIT-U, “The Left Faces a Major Challenge”. The letter has been circulating in Argentina for over a month and was recently followed by a second letter, also signed by well-known left-wing activists. [2]


As we believe it is important to raise awareness internationally about what is happening in Argentina, we interviewed Lucita, a signatory to both letters, on May 27. He discussed this process, provided an overview of the international situation and argued the case for building on the successful anti-fascist conference recently held in Porto Alegre in Brazil.

Your open letter addressed to the parties in the FIT-U has had a big impact within left-wing circles and beyond. Its impacts have even been felt here in Brazil. Could you give us an overview of the letter’s purpose and why it was published now?

I will focus on the letters’main points. To start, there is a broader context to bear in mind: the deepening social crisis and young people’s sense of a lack of future; the president’s declining popularity and strong rejection of his government’s actions; the serious difficulties Peronism has resolving its internal crisis; and the rise of the anti-capitalist left, embodied in the figure of Myriam Bregman. This general context seemed to us a turning point in the political situation, as well as both an opportunity and a challenge for the left.

So, the first objective was initiating a debate about this juncture, which I view as exceptional. Judging by the comments, criticisms and suggestions we have received, and that the Socialist Workers’ Party (PTS), Workers’ Socialist Movement (MST) and Socialist Left (IS) [all parties within the FIT-U] published the first letter on their websites, I think this first objective was achieved.

Beyond the analyses and characterisations, the letter also puts forward concrete proposals, such as creating “Committees of Struggle and Support for Myriam Bregman,” and establishing technical working groups to develop the left’s program with greater precision. We believe this would help consolidate its rise.

As for why now, the idea flowing through the text is that, for the first time in more than 40 years, the chance exists to mobilise sections of the masses to support a workers’ government and, within a broader perspective, raise the idea of contesting for real power. As we say, the committees could play an important role in this. It strikes me as an unprecedented situation that we must capitalise on.

Polls show surging support for Bregman, in terms of her image, approval and voting intentions. Did this surprise you?

Well, Bregman’s profile has been rising for several years. She is a left-wing activist with a long track record around human rights, and supporting trade union and social struggles. She is also a very powerful voice in the National Congress.

But I would be lying if I said that the surge in support for her over the past two months did not take me by surprise. She is the only political figure in the country with a positive approval rating and has an average voting intention of 10%. I am pleasantly surprised by all this.

What do you think explains this explosive rise in the polls? Is it her personal qualities, the policies she proposes, or rather the political and social situation being ripe for a figure as disruptive as Milei was in his day?

It is a combination of several factors. On the one hand, there is no doubt that the socio-economic situation carries significant weight. This is reflected in Milei’s falling approval ratings — now at their lowest point since he came to office [in 2023]— and, above all, by the 60% disapproval of his government’s performance.

The shift to the right within Peronism is also important. The party’s leaders have drifted a fair way from its historic base, which is fragmented, leaderless and disoriented. In a recent conversation with colleagues from some outer Buenos Aires suburbs, they said they had observed a shift in voting intentions within Peronism away from traditional figures towards Juan Grabois [who leads a progressive wing of Peronism closely linked to sectors of the Catholic Church], but now, for reasons unknown, Grabois’s rise had stalled and people were looking to vote for Bregman. I do not know if that is exactly the case, but such anecdotes are worth bearing in mind.

I believe her role as an uncompromising opposition figure who has never made deals with any government (just like the other FIT-U MPs) has been decisive. Her personality and charisma also carry weight. She is pleasant to deal with, always smiling, cultured and intelligent. She is also not afraid to speak out in parliamentary debates, to put her body on the line on the streets and to speak with the media, becoming the most sought-after figure these days.

I would also add that she has been a member of a Trotskyist party [the PTS] for 20 long years. You, as a full-time party activist, and I know full well the demands such parties entail. Bregman’s personality stems from her DNA, but I also believe it comes from being shaped and raised within that party.

The first open letter disagreed with statements by Bregman and Christian Castillo [another PTS leader and FIT-U MP] that the conditions do not exist for a left-wing government, nor for contesting power, as there is no powerful social movement or organs of dual power.

In my opinion, those statements were rather unfortunate. It is not that they are entirely wrong, but they failed to account for the context and came across as defensive, whereas we believe — and the letter makes this clear — that the conditions exist for a more active stance, putting forward proposals and seeking to overcome resistance.

Fortunately, our comrades have not repeated those statements. I think there was a process of reflection, and Bregman recently said in an interview: “Of course we want to be in government, of course we want to have the power to transform this situation at its roots.”

You also controversially characterised the current moment, saying that “an electoral breakthrough is more likely than an insurrectionary one”, before proposing “Committees of Struggle and Support for Myriam Bregman”. Is this not a sign of electoralism? How does this fit with the PTS’s proposal for a new workers’ party? And is the open letter not overly optimistic?

Well, in the face of so much resignation and despair that others want to impose on us, we have opted for the optimism of the will. But not in the abstract; rather, an optimism based on the shifting situation.

As for a workers’ party, I cannot answer definitively, as I am not clear what they are proposing. Speaking at the Ferro stadium on May 1, Bregman referred to a workers’ party, then to an instrument of the workers, then a party of the new working class, and finally a new historic movement. I suppose this proposal will be more defined in time and be discussed within the FIT-U, whose coordinating committee I understand is due to meet in the coming days.

As for electoralism, no one doubts that capital, led by Milei, is waging an offensive against working people’s living conditions, environmental protections and women’s rights, the LGBTQ+ community and various minorities in the country involved in multiple resistance movements.

But a common feature of these struggles — which all indications suggest will intensify — is that they are dispersed, fragmented and often influenced by identity politics, which hinders attempts to unify and centralise them. To make matters worse, leaders such as those of the CGT [General Confederation of Labour] favour negotiation over confrontation, or simply look the other way.

No one believes a social uprising is imminent, although the class struggle is obviously unpredictable. Otherwise, we would have all predicted the 2001 uprising [against neoliberal policies that forced the resignation of several presidents]. As I am older, I remember the 1959 conflict at the Lisandro de La Torre meat-processing plant, which culminated in a general strike organised via word of mouth. But it is a fact that the polls show electoral progress is far more likely to occur today than an uprising.

In the second letter, “Some reflections on the tasks ahead”, you place great emphasis on the committees, presented under the slogan “For a workers’ government: Myriam Bregman for president”.

Yes. The proposal for committees — which, it must be acknowledged, Bregman took up in her May 1 speech when she spoke of “organising support” — seeks not only to unite activists from parties in the FIT-U or other organisations and movements, but also intellectuals, artists and, above all, those leading the currently scattered and fragmented struggles. It aims to call for the broadest possible unity so that we can discuss together a minimum program to address the emergency we face and opens possibilities for profound transformations.

In recent days, the PTS launched its public call of “We need you.” We support this as a step forward, which invites people to organise around the idea of a workers’ government. It also raises the idea of a workers’ party and/or a new historic movement, but as I said, this requires more in-depth discussions.

Logically, these committees, convened by and rallying behind Bregman, should also be involved in election campaigning. The reality is that we will most likely enter a lull period now, due to the World Cup. But elections will be happen soon after it finishes. And they will be important, not only because many think things cannot go on as they are, but because within the ruling classes there is a sector already doubting that Milei will be re-elected, or if it is even in their interests if he is. So, there is no shortage of people wanting to drop him to save their project, and are already looking for a replacement.

So, for me, this is not electoralism. It is about seizing an unprecedented opportunity. But looking at the two open letters, you will see that they insist on not abandoning the struggles or the streets. The electoral arena is just another battlefield. As they used to say in the past, we must not ignore the battles on the terrain that the rulers dominate.

You also talk about shifting from defence to offence. I find this interesting, and not just for the Argentine left. Can you explain what this might look like?

It is clear that Bregman’s support and the shift in public sentiment that I have described — and it is not just me talking about this — will not automatically translate into organised support or votes. Achieving this political objective requires a sort of cultural shift on the left, here and around the world. It involves leaving behind a simply self-serving or self-referential politics and prioritising the general interests of the workers’ and popular movement. That is to say, less vanguardism and more mass politics to reach broad sectors hit hard by the crisis, including those who do not identify with anti-capitalism or socialism.

In our case, we need to reach out to the many groups and sectors within Peronism that are now directionless — without a project, program,or clear leadership — and who have repeatedly expressed their intention to vote for Bregman, to ask them to join the committees.

This leads us to the need for left unity, not simply because together we are more, but because it allows us to jointly think and act. This unity cannot simply be declared, it has to put aside fruitless arguments and create independent, democratic and autonomous committees as a common space for uniting the activist energy currently dispersed across multiple, often ineffective, spaces.

Making progress on this front requires a change in attitude among the members of the various parties in the FIT-U. If we manage this, we can leave behind the defensive position we have been stuck in for a long time, and go on the offensive. This would allow us to go beyond just resisting to envisioning ways to transform this intolerable reality, deal with the problem of power and forge the alliances needed to make this possible.

We have an unprecedented window of opportunity that also poses a major challenge for the left. This opportunity is not open-ended. We know politics abhors a vacuum. If the left does not occupy that space, others will. There is no time to lose.

I also have the international situation in mind. In that sense, how do you see what is happening in Argentina, but also in Bolivia, fitting into a world marked by geopolitical tensions, the rise of the right, and a figure like Donald Trump?

Well, Argentina is, to some extent, an exceptional case. We have a president who defines himself as an anarcho-capitalist and is at the ideological vanguard of the right’s global rise. As if that was not enough, he has also subordinated the country’s foreign policy to Trump’s US and Netanyahu’s Israel.

On the other hand, we have an anti-capitalist left, I believe, unlike any other in the world at the moment. It is spearheaded by an electoral alliance (the FIT-U) of four Trotskyist parties, which has existed for 15 years now, something equally unprecedented.

Bolivia is undergoing a severe political crisis fuelled by a workers’, indigenous and peasant uprising that has blocked the country’s main roads and cities. They demand the Rodrigo Paz government, elected just over six months ago, resign. If this happens — and we should not rule out that something similar could happen in my country, given the critical social situation — it would have a tremendous impact internationally.

Even defeating Milei in the 2027 presidential elections would be significant. It would concretely demonstrate that, whether through insurrection or the ballot box, the far right can be defeated. And if the anti-capitalist left plays a decisive role in these movements, it would serve as an example for the left internationally.

As for Trump, it is clear that he heads a decaying empire seeking to take refuge in the “Western bloc” and that, as it declines, has become more aggressive and predatory. This was demonstrated by the military invasion of Venezuela and kidnapping of its president, the threats and strangulation of Cuba, and his remarks about annexing Canada and Greenland.

Trump allowed Israel to drag him into the Middle East war, while letting Israel run rampant in Gaza, the West Bank and Lebanon. Trump became involved in the war without a clear entry or exit strategy. It is now clear that he will emerge weakened from this self-inflicted chaos. This could have consequences for the US November mid-term elections.

The flip side is the rise of China, now the main reference point on the global chessboard, as a Spanish political scientist put it. In just under a week, China’s president Xi Jinping received Trump and Vladimir Putin on state visits to Beijing and signed various trade and political agreements with both, granting neither anything of significance. He forced Trump to back down on arms sales to Taiwan and made clear to Putin that China is more important to Russia than Russia is to China.

We face a changing world order, and everything indicates that we are heading towards a division of spheres of influence. This may stabilise the situation for a while, but tensions will return, especially considering that global capitalism’s unresolved crisis underlies all this.

Finally, here in Porto Alegre, we held the 1st Anti-Fascist Conference for the Sovereignty of Peoples in March, with a significant delegation from Argentina. What were your thoughts on this event and how do you see it developing in the future?

I do not know if you are aware, but I collaborated with Eric Toussaint in organising the conference. I no longer travel, but from the reports I received and comments from various comrades, the conference was a success in terms of participation and the diversity of topics debated in the various panels and self-organised activities.

There is no doubt that this success stemmed from focusing on the common objective of an international convergence to confront far-right forces across the world, an objective shared by various parties and social movements in Brazil and internationally by organisations such as CADTM [Committee for the Abolition of Illegitimate Debt], the Fourth International, Jubilee South and the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation.

A large delegation from my country took part, comprising members of anti-capitalist organisations and centre-left and/or progressive movements, as well as some prominent intellectuals.

I believe the conference must be followed up. This was also the view of the International Committee, which decided to organise two events, one in Mexico and another in Argentina. We will see when these can take place. The decision has been made and it is our duty to carry them out.

2 June 2026

Source: A version of this interview was first published in Spanish at Revista Movimento. Translation by Federico Fuentes for LINKS International Journal of Socialist Renewal.

Footnotes

[1] Peronism has been the dominant political force in Argentine politics since the rise to power of President Juan Domingo Perón in 1946. Currently in opposition, it has also been the main ruling party since the end of the military dictatorship in 1983. As a broad political movement, it encompasses a wide spectrum of politicians (from right-wing to centre-left and progressive), including the previous centre-left administrations of Nestor Kirchner (2003-07) and Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner (2007-15).

[2] Among the signatories of these open letters are also Ariel Petruccelli, a renown intellectual; Juan Pablo Casiello, a well-known teachers’ union leader from Rosario, and Aldo Casas, a lifelong revolutionary socialist.