Matthew Chapman
December 27, 2024
Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy (Photos via Reuters)
Former Illinois GOP Rep. Joe Walsh has no sympathy for billionaires who fell in with MAGA only to realize the movement adamantly opposes the workforce policies needed for their businesses to thrive.
He reacted to the commentary on X Friday of AQR Capital Management managing principal Clifford Asness, who wrote of Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy's civil war with Trump influencers over H1-B work visas: "TFW you realize the mob you created may not be all yours... Btw, Musk and Ramaswamy are clearly right."
"Musk and Ramaswamy are right — when it comes to immigration," agreed Walsh, who abandoned the GOP over what he saw as their unwavering loyalty to Trump over the Constitution. "And you are right — Musk & Ramaswamy are being eaten right now by an intolerant, nationalistic mob that they played a large role in helping to create. They both deserve to be eaten by their mob."
H1-B visas are used to grant work authorization to foreign workers, usually to highly skilled white-collar jobs like software engineering.
In recent days, Trump supporters have been whipped into a xenophobic frenzy against this program, and in particular Indian tech workers, accusing them of stealing job opportunities from Americans.
Far-right Trump ally and failed Florida congressional candidate Laura Loomer has been a highly visible presence in the debate, picking public fights with Musk and accusing him of hijacking the MAGA movement for the benefit of billionaires. She and some others who have criticized Musk are reportedly finding themselves being stripped of premium features on X, which they believe to be retaliation for their criticism.
'Has MAGA been duped?' Trump fans freak out over new plan from unelected 'DOGE twins'
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Tom Boggioni
December 27, 2024
RAW STORY
An online civil war between hardcore Donald Trump "America First" partisans and the men whom the president-elect chose to head up his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has spilled onto Trump's Truth Social media platform.
The war began with a spat when longtime Trump supporter Laura Loomer lashed out at Trump's choice of tech entrepreneur Sriram Krishnan, who was born in India and is an avid supporter of removing caps on H-1B visas, as his senior policy adviser on artificial intelligence.
That, in turn, set off a battle on X with both Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who pushed back at Loomer which in turn led to ugly attacks about the two leeching onto Trump for their own tech industry purposes and Musk firing back at Loomer for "trolling" for clicks.
Over on Truth Social under the #DOGE hashtag, supporters of Trump sided with Loomer and have begun questioning the motives of what some are calling the "DOGE twins."
ALSO READ: Trump is already walking back on his promises
AmericanGal_69, whose bio claims she lives in Tennessee and boasts, "The Constitution cause those are my God given rights," leveled accusations that the MAGA movement may have been defrauded.
In a post where she tagged the president-elect, she wrote, "Some dumb a-- comments from folks that are blinded by false prophets.
"Do your research. I knew all this crap was coming from him and CONSWAMY. Did @realDonaldTrump know?" she asked. "Is he in on it? Has #MAGA been duped? Let's see how the Boss @realDonaldTrump @TeamTrump reacts to all the negative feedback on the #DOGE twins."
USMC Veteran BlackBeardsFlag chimed in, "#Doge and #ElonMusk want to outsource our jobs instead of America first. They love H1B visas for cheap labor."
"How about a complete moratorium on immigration? That sounds about my speed, but then I'm #AmericaFirst #MAGA #Doge needs to hush #Truth #MAHA #Trump #elonmusk," wrote AnneOfTheWest whose bio states, "Pro-West, anti immigration. Christian, conservative, and a Patriot. Men are men, women are women. Return this country to what it was."
"Deport ALL illegal aliens with a lifetime ban from re-entering the US. NO EXCEPTIONS," is the bio for TruthSayer who also joined the pile-on by warning, "@realDonaldTrump, we didn't support you so you could bring and keep more foreign nationals here to further drain our resources. #AmericansFirst! Student visas in the US are hideously abused by foreign agitators, activists, fake-student criminals, and visa overstayers. We should NOT offer green cards to ANY US college graduate to encourage more to come or stay. Student grants, scholarships, school resources, and student housing, should be for AMERICANS FIRST. We should stop the importation of legions of student visas and focus on offering better opportunities for AMERICAN students instead! #RestrictStudentVisas"
Another Truth Social user raised red flags that Musk is impacting Loomer's reach.
"Kiss #Doge goodbye after the last 24 hours. Elon, aka Jack Dorsey 2.0 just took blue ✅ s from @LauraLoomer 💩 new rules w/ update seems to be deboosting the #MAGA Conservatives voices," wrote "pro-life scientist" Michael Szumega.
"There are at least 1.5 million illegal aliens living in the U.S. awaiting deportation that are not in custody. Perhaps we should pause immigration, with few exceptions, until they are removed. Then we can have a conversation about changes to legal immigration," contributed Alx who has a pinned picture of himself with Trump at Mar-a-Lago on his Truth Social page.
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Tom Boggioni
December 27, 2024
RAW STORY
An online civil war between hardcore Donald Trump "America First" partisans and the men whom the president-elect chose to head up his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has spilled onto Trump's Truth Social media platform.
The war began with a spat when longtime Trump supporter Laura Loomer lashed out at Trump's choice of tech entrepreneur Sriram Krishnan, who was born in India and is an avid supporter of removing caps on H-1B visas, as his senior policy adviser on artificial intelligence.
That, in turn, set off a battle on X with both Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who pushed back at Loomer which in turn led to ugly attacks about the two leeching onto Trump for their own tech industry purposes and Musk firing back at Loomer for "trolling" for clicks.
Over on Truth Social under the #DOGE hashtag, supporters of Trump sided with Loomer and have begun questioning the motives of what some are calling the "DOGE twins."
ALSO READ: Trump is already walking back on his promises
AmericanGal_69, whose bio claims she lives in Tennessee and boasts, "The Constitution cause those are my God given rights," leveled accusations that the MAGA movement may have been defrauded.
In a post where she tagged the president-elect, she wrote, "Some dumb a-- comments from folks that are blinded by false prophets.
"Do your research. I knew all this crap was coming from him and CONSWAMY. Did @realDonaldTrump know?" she asked. "Is he in on it? Has #MAGA been duped? Let's see how the Boss @realDonaldTrump @TeamTrump reacts to all the negative feedback on the #DOGE twins."
USMC Veteran BlackBeardsFlag chimed in, "#Doge and #ElonMusk want to outsource our jobs instead of America first. They love H1B visas for cheap labor."
"How about a complete moratorium on immigration? That sounds about my speed, but then I'm #AmericaFirst #MAGA #Doge needs to hush #Truth #MAHA #Trump #elonmusk," wrote AnneOfTheWest whose bio states, "Pro-West, anti immigration. Christian, conservative, and a Patriot. Men are men, women are women. Return this country to what it was."
"Deport ALL illegal aliens with a lifetime ban from re-entering the US. NO EXCEPTIONS," is the bio for TruthSayer who also joined the pile-on by warning, "@realDonaldTrump, we didn't support you so you could bring and keep more foreign nationals here to further drain our resources. #AmericansFirst! Student visas in the US are hideously abused by foreign agitators, activists, fake-student criminals, and visa overstayers. We should NOT offer green cards to ANY US college graduate to encourage more to come or stay. Student grants, scholarships, school resources, and student housing, should be for AMERICANS FIRST. We should stop the importation of legions of student visas and focus on offering better opportunities for AMERICAN students instead! #RestrictStudentVisas"
Another Truth Social user raised red flags that Musk is impacting Loomer's reach.
"Kiss #Doge goodbye after the last 24 hours. Elon, aka Jack Dorsey 2.0 just took blue ✅ s from @LauraLoomer 💩 new rules w/ update seems to be deboosting the #MAGA Conservatives voices," wrote "pro-life scientist" Michael Szumega.
"There are at least 1.5 million illegal aliens living in the U.S. awaiting deportation that are not in custody. Perhaps we should pause immigration, with few exceptions, until they are removed. Then we can have a conversation about changes to legal immigration," contributed Alx who has a pinned picture of himself with Trump at Mar-a-Lago on his Truth Social page.
'Scam by the oligarchs!' Steve Bannon piles on Elon Musk in MAGA civil war
Matthew Chapman
December 27, 2024
RAW STORY
Steve Bannon. (Gage Skidmore)
Former Donald Trump adviser turned far-right pundit Steve Bannon came down hard against tech billionaire Elon Musk in the battle that flared up this week between right-wing businessmen and the MAGA activist class, The New Republic reported on Friday.
The heart of the issue is the H1-B visa system, which is used to give work permits to high-skilled white collar workers, like software engineers, who want to immigrate to the U.S. Musk, who was born in South Africa and ironically has been reported as once having worked illegally in the U.S. himself, relies on these programs at many of his companies, which puts him at odds with much of the MAGA community that not only wants to crack down on illegal immigration, but restrict legal immigration as well.
A growing xenophobic backlash in the far-right against Indian tech workers in particular, triggered by Trump's nomination of Sriram Krishnan as an AI policy adviser, has added fuel to the fire
Bannon, who lauded Musk for helping Trump win the election but just a year prior was blasting him as selling "snake oil," made it clear which side he is on in a new tirade in his "War Room" show on Friday.
“H-1B visas? That’s not what it’s about. It’s about taking American jobs and bringing over essentially what have become indentured servants at lower wages,” said Bannon. “This thing’s a scam by the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to basically take jobs from American citizens, give them to what become indentured servants from foreign countries, and then pay ‘em less. Simple. To let them in through the golden door.”
Bannon's commentary comes shortly after Laura Loomer, a self-described "Proud Islamophobe," Trump confidante, and multiple-time failed congressional candidate in Florida, blew up at Musk on his own X platform for the same reason. "The elephant in the room is that Elon Musk, who is not MAGA and never has been, is a total f------ drag on the Trump transition," she raged. "He's a stage 5 clinger who over stayed his welcome at Mar-a-Lago in an effort to... be the point man for all his accomplices in big Tech to slither in."
According to Loomer, her premium subscription and monetization on Musk's platform were summarily revoked shortly after she fired off her criticisms.
Steve Bannon. (Gage Skidmore)
Former Donald Trump adviser turned far-right pundit Steve Bannon came down hard against tech billionaire Elon Musk in the battle that flared up this week between right-wing businessmen and the MAGA activist class, The New Republic reported on Friday.
The heart of the issue is the H1-B visa system, which is used to give work permits to high-skilled white collar workers, like software engineers, who want to immigrate to the U.S. Musk, who was born in South Africa and ironically has been reported as once having worked illegally in the U.S. himself, relies on these programs at many of his companies, which puts him at odds with much of the MAGA community that not only wants to crack down on illegal immigration, but restrict legal immigration as well.
A growing xenophobic backlash in the far-right against Indian tech workers in particular, triggered by Trump's nomination of Sriram Krishnan as an AI policy adviser, has added fuel to the fire
Bannon, who lauded Musk for helping Trump win the election but just a year prior was blasting him as selling "snake oil," made it clear which side he is on in a new tirade in his "War Room" show on Friday.
“H-1B visas? That’s not what it’s about. It’s about taking American jobs and bringing over essentially what have become indentured servants at lower wages,” said Bannon. “This thing’s a scam by the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to basically take jobs from American citizens, give them to what become indentured servants from foreign countries, and then pay ‘em less. Simple. To let them in through the golden door.”
Bannon's commentary comes shortly after Laura Loomer, a self-described "Proud Islamophobe," Trump confidante, and multiple-time failed congressional candidate in Florida, blew up at Musk on his own X platform for the same reason. "The elephant in the room is that Elon Musk, who is not MAGA and never has been, is a total f------ drag on the Trump transition," she raged. "He's a stage 5 clinger who over stayed his welcome at Mar-a-Lago in an effort to... be the point man for all his accomplices in big Tech to slither in."
According to Loomer, her premium subscription and monetization on Musk's platform were summarily revoked shortly after she fired off her criticisms.
'There are rules on X?': Trump ally mocked for social media ban while MAGA rages
Sarah K. Burris
December 27, 2024
RAW STORY
Elon Musk. (Photo credit: Frederic Legrand - COMEO / Shutterstock )
Far-right Donald Trump ally Laura Loomer was suspended from Elon Musk's social media site X after spending hours attacking him for not being a true MAGA fan.
Musk began by telling the world to ignore her, but it didn't take long for Loomer to be suspended for 12 hours, claiming she broke the X terms of service.
Furious MAGA allies demanded to know what rule she broke.
The behavioral science and politics podcast "The Shallow State" posted, "THIS is a megalomaniac. We'll discuss this as part of our next edition of Banters, a little later today. In a tweet at midnight, Musk referred to the people he slammed as 'subtards.' Here's the message from Loomer's newly derailed account."
All legal analyst Aaron Parnas could do was burst out laughing via text.
It became part of commentator and legal analyst Jennifer Taub's morning rundown as well. "Love your news served with an extra helping of crazy town?"
"There are rules on X?" asked MSNBC host Katie Phang.
Others mocked Musk for his "free speech" promises while suspending someone's free speech on his platform.
Ultimately, even Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) stepped in to defend Musk's opinions on immigration.
"Good gracious, I came out of Christmas bliss to see arguments about American labor vs H1-B imported labor and MAGA split over this issue. Good, that means everyone is engaged in saving this country. Here is some tough reality for some of you: There are some big MAGA voices," she wrote.
One of the debates was over a new hire of pro-immigration advocate, Sriram Krishnan.
Tom Wellborn of "The Political Mix" explained that the hire "ignited backlash from extremists like Laura Loomer, exposing the fault lines between anti-immigrant zealots and corporate elites who depend on foreign talent to stay competitive. MAGA’s contradictions are imploding."
Musk moved to the U.S. in 1995 under the guise that he was going to attend Stanford University. However, Musk never enrolled in his graduate studies program there. The Washington Post reported in October that the move meant Musk was working illegally in the U.S. for a time. Investors in his first company were concerned that he would be deported at any moment.
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