Tuesday, March 10, 2020

Former Vice President Joe Biden told a pro-gun worker he was “full of s***” during a testy exchange after speaking at an auto plant in Detroit.

William Cummings, USA TODAY•March 10, 2020

Michigan could redefine Democratic primary

Former Vice President Joe Biden got into a heated exchange with a worker over gun rights during a tour of a Detroit auto plant on Tuesday.

The worker, among a group surrounding Biden in their hardhats at the Fiat Chrysler plant, accused Biden of "actively trying to end our Second Amendment right" and "take away our guns" in the exchange, which was caught on video.

"You're full of ----," Biden responded. "I support the Second Amendment." He then appeared to tell an aide who was trying to end the conversation to "shush."

Biden went on to explain that he believes there are limits to the Second Amendment. He compared it to the limits on the First Amendment right to free speech, such as the famous example of not being able to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater.

The former vice president told the man he owned shotguns and that his sons were hunters.

"I'm not taking your gun away at all," Biden said.

The man repeated his accusation that Biden had pledged to take away peoples' guns.

"I did not say that," Biden said, his voice rising.

The man replied that there was a "viral video" of him saying he would.

"It's a viral video like the other ones they've been putting out that are simply a lie," said Biden. A recent video clip of remarks by Biden that was retweeted by President Donald Trump was labeled "manipulated media" by Twitter and "partly false" by Facebook.

"I support the Second Amendment," Biden adds while vising under-construction auto plant in Detroit. @CBSNews pic.twitter.com/sueOSBaY9P
— Bo Erickson CBS (@BoKnowsNews) March 10, 2020

A video of Biden meeting with former Rep. Beto O'Rourke, who supports a mandatory buyback program, after O'Rourke endorsed him has been shared as evidence that Biden plans to confiscate guns. But FactCheck.org determined that such spin on that video was "misleading."

In the video, Biden expresses admiration for O'Rourke's positions on assault weapons and climate change and warns O'Rourke's wife, Amy, that if he wins the election he is "coming for him," presumably to work under a Biden administration. Some conservative sites have shared the video with the implication that Biden was saying, "I'm coming for them," referring to guns.

After denying the claim that he wanted to confiscate guns, an agitated Biden then waved his finger in the man's face and mistakenly referred to "AR-14s."

The two men exchanged more words at that point, which were difficult to discern in the video.

"You're working for me, man," the worker then tells Biden, as the audio becomes clear again.

"I'm not working for you," Biden said. "Give me a break, man. Don't be such a horse's ---."

"Here's the deal. Are you able to own a machine gun?" Biden asks the worker.

"Machine guns are illegal," the man replies. Biden argues AR-15s should be illegal for the same reason before the man is led away by other workers.

Fact check: O’Rourke Endorsement Triggers False Posts on Biden’s Gun Policy
Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden meets workers as he tours the Fiat Chrysler plant in Detroit, Michigan on March 10, 2020.

According to the platform laid on his website, Biden favors a ban on the sale and manufacture of assault rifles and high-capacity magazines. Those already in possession of such weapons would have a choice between selling them as part of a voluntary government buyback program, or registering them with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

He also endorses expanded background checks, "red flag laws" aimed at keeping guns away from people suffering from mental illness, limits on how many guns people can buy and expanding the list of prohibited buyers.

Six states are voting in the Democratic presidential race on Tuesday, and of those Michigan has the most pledged delegates up for grabs. Polls have suggested Biden is the strong favorite to carry Michigan, though Sen. Bernie Sanders defied the polls and defeated Hillary Clinton there in 2016.

Biden has had other clashes with voters on the campaign trail.

Last month, he called a New Hampshire voter a "lying dog-faced pony soldier" after she asked him a question about his fourth-place finish in the Iowa caucuses.

In December, he called a man at an event in Iowa a "damn liar" when the man accused Biden of selling access to Ukraine. And at a New Hampshire campaign event later that month he called a heckler "an idiot."

'Manipulated media': Twitter uses label for first time after Trump retweets edited video clip of Biden

Contributing: Saranac Hale Spencer, FactCheck.org; The Associated Press

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Joe Biden has heated gun control exchange with Michigan worker


Joe Biden says he’s got no intention of confiscating guns.

 Reuters
‘You’re full of sh—. ... Don’t tell me that, pal, or I’m going to go out and slap you in the face. ... Don’t be such a horse’s ass.’
That’s presidential hopeful Joe Biden at a campaign stop in Michigan firing back at a construction worker who accused him of trying to confiscate Americans’ guns.
“You are actively trying to end our Second Amendment right and take away our guns,” the man told Biden, adding that the former vice president vowed to do just that in “a viral video.”
The worker was likely referring to a clip that recently racked up clicks with the Facebook FB, +5.12% headline, “Joe Biden says if he wins he’s coming for our guns”. FactCheck.org determined the video was “used as fuel for misinformation” about Biden’s gun policy.
“I support the Second Amendment,” Biden explained. “I have a shotgun, I have a 20-gauge, a 12-gauge. My sons hunt. ... I’m not taking your gun away at all.”
Here’s a clip of the exchange in Detroit, via CBS News:
Biden was on hand to tour the Fiat Chrysler FCAU, +4.36% FCA, 2.498% assembly plant, where he was reportedly greeted warmly by hundreds of IBEW members before the spat.
“You’re the best damn workers in the world,” Biden said. “I promise you if I become your president you will never have a better friend in the White House. I’m union from, as my — I won’t say what my grandfather used to say — but from belt buckle to shoe sole, man.”
According to CBS, Biden was scheduled to meet with the leaders of a gun-control advocacy organization in Columbus, Ohio, later in the day. 

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