Second Amendment Rights

So much for the second amendment right of Americans to bear arms. They can as long as they are not loaded and they don't go near the Supreme Court.

Man With Shotgun Arrested Outside Capitol

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: January 19, 2008

A man carrying a shotgun outside the Capitol was arrested, the authorities said. The man, Michael S. Gorbey, 38, was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm, the Capitol Police said. Mr. Gorbey also was wearing a tactical vest and had a bow in his car, Terrance W. Gainer, the Senate sergeant-at-arms, told The Washington Post. Mr. Gorbey said he was going to the Supreme Court, Mr. Gainer said. An officer first spotted Mr. Gorbey near Union Station, about two blocks from the Capitol. His vehicle had wires coming out of the glove box and propane tanks inside, Mr. Gainer said. The items in the car were destroyed, Sergeant Schneider said.

Of course this guy is far more dangerous with a gun but he wasn't arrested even though it is rumored he hangs around the White House.




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Young Americans For Freedom

From Gun Control.... 'non partisan' indeed, LOL. They are just another Republican/NRA lobby.

Guzman, an economics major at Texas State University-San Marcos, is among 8,000 students nationwide who have joined the nonpartisan Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, arguing that students and faculty already licensed to carry concealed weapons should be allowed to pack heat along with their textbooks.

"It's the basic right of self defense," said Guzman, a 23-year-old former Marine. "Here on campus, we don't have that right, that right of self defense."

Every state but Illinois and Wisconsin allows residents some form of concealed handgun carrying rights, with 36 states issuing permits to most everyone who meets licensing criteria. The precise standards vary from state to state, but most require an applicant to be at least 21 and to complete formal instruction on use of force.

These college students should be required to take a logic course or at least a situational sociology course . Because they obviously miss the stupidity of their argument. Lax American gun laws, and its wild west gun culture create the climate and ability for people to use guns at random. Wisconsin allows eight year olds to carry guns. Ipso facto we need more gun toting folks to be able to shoot it out with them. Yep that is the very definition of 'public safety' ...American style.

The fact that anyone anywhere anytime can get a gun is not the problem no sir, it's the fact that innocent law abiding citizens can't carry concealed weapons that's the problem. Yep love that circular logic.


Come to think of it that reminds me of the Broadway black comedy that became a movie from 1971 called Little Murders written by Julius Feiffer, Village Voice cartoonist and starring Eliot Gould. Yep that's the logical out come of this particular lobby group. And 1971 was the last time we heard from Young Americans For Freedom.

And as usual Americans will claim their right to shoot each other is protected under the Second Amendment. However that Amendment deals with an armed population; a citizens militia, as opposed to a standing army. Such guns would be a collective not individual responsibility. Such as having a militia in each town or city that has a collective weapons cache.

"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Today America has both a standing Army and a militia; the National Guard.




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Gun Nutz

So ask your self this, why is it okay for the State to regulate and control tobacco users, campaign for a smoke free environment for public health which impacts over 6 million Canadians, and everyone agrees, including the Conservatives to limit smokers liberties, but when it comes to guns and public health, well that's going to far. Yet the number of gun owners in Canada is only 2.3 million.

This vocal minority is punching far above its weight.While the pro gun lobby claims it is defending long gun owners, the reality is that they are dominated by handgun collectors who would ultimately like to see the handgun registry and ban eliminated. Thats the real hidden agenda behind their fight against the Long Gun Registry.

"The government has admitted on three separate occasions . . . that since handgun registration was implemented in 1934, not one single crime in Canada has been solved using the national pistol registry."

--MP Garry Breitkreuz

Which is why you always see pictures of the gun nutz with their favorite weapon. And no it ain't a duck hunting shot gun.

A photo of Prof. Gary Mauser from the Canadian National Firearms Association (NFA) website. This photo has since been removed.

Aw shucks it might be incriminating given Gary's take off on Dirty Harry; "Feeling lucky, punk? Well are ya?"


The Harpocrites are stacking their firearms advisory committee with folks like Gary. Including

The Conservative government's firearms advisory committee, appointed and operating in virtual secrecy, is made up almost entirely of pro-gun advocates opposed to the firearms registry.

Its dozen members include a man who argued that more guns in the hands of students would have helped in the recent Virginia Tech massacre, in which 32 people were killed, and another shooting aficionado who described a weapon used in last September's Dawson College killings in Montreal as "fun."

In background research obtained and confirmed by the Star, members of the Conservatives' committee have shown themselves to be vocal proponents of gun use.

"If even 1 per cent of the students and staff at Virginia Tech had been allowed to exercise their right to self defence, then this tragedy would have been stopped in its very beginning and dozens of lives would have been saved," Dr. Mike Ackermann, a Nova Scotia physician, wrote in a letter to the Ottawa Sun in April. "There are never any mass killings at shooting ranges; only at schools and other so-called `gun-free zones.'

Quack of the Week

Sounds like Dr. Mike is more interested in representing the St. Mary's Shooters Association (he is President), rather than the health interests of Canadians.

Gary Mauser, a Simon Fraser University professor renowned for his work opposing gun laws, wrote an opinion piece in the Vancouver Sun in February: "Firearm laws divert scarce resources from alternative approaches that might actually improve public safety."

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The only apparent acknowledgment of the committee's membership was found in a letter by MP Garry Breitkreuz (Yorkton Melville) to constituents in which he pointed to the makeup of the panel as evidence of the Tories' intent to be more gun friendly.

"In October, the minister's new firearms advisory committee met in Ottawa for the first time. The difference between the Liberal government and the Conservative government is obvious by the people that make up the committee," Breitkreuz wrote in the letter dated Dec. 15, 2006.

He named Ackermann, Mauser and 10 other members:

Tony Bernardo, Canadian Institute of Legislative Action.

Linda Thom, Olympic gold medallist in pistol shooting.

Alain Cossette, Quebec Wildlife Federation.

Greg Farrant, Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters.

Linda Baggaley, firearms expert and dealer from Alberta.

Stephen Torino, Quebec firearms expert and dealer.

Louis D'amour, New Brunswick firearms expert.

Gerry Gamble, Sporting Clubs of Niagara.

Robert Head, former RCMP assistant commissioner.

John Gayder, Niagara police.

Murray Grismer, Saskatoon police.

The Conservative Party of Canada Policy Declaration
as approved by the Convention on March 19, 2005.
81. Firearms
A Conservative Government will repeal Canada's costly gun registry legislation and work with the provinces
and territories on cost-effective gun control programs designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals
while respecting the rights of law-abiding Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. Measures will
include: mandatory minimum sentences for the criminal use of firearms; strict monitoring of high-risk
individuals; crackdown on the smuggling; safe storage provisions; firearms safety training; a certification
screening system for all those wishing to acquire firearms legally; and putting more law enforcement officers on our streets.

LUFA

Grassroots not for profit organization formed in 1998 to fight Bill C-68 (Firearms Act)

CSSA

Ottawa rejects call for handgun ban
Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day suggests such a move would be useless, and might do more harm than good.
We welcome this refreshing breath of truth and common sense. Now is a good time for all shooters to show their appreciation to the Honourable Public Safety Minister.

Dawson gun (Sensationalism) is all the rage

Bruce Gold
Feb. 15, 2007

Now lets look at the old committee and compare who is missing from the new advisory committee:

The User Group was established by the Minister of Justice in December 1995 after Bill C-68 received royal assent. The members are representatives of the firearms community and the regular administrators of the legislation. The Group is composed of hunters, target shooters, collectors, range operators, businesses, safety instructors, wildlife representatives, outfitters and law enforcement officials.
Jim Adam
Ronald Gibson
Christina Ashcroft
Linda Baggaley
Jim Bouchard
Terry Burns
Don Cameron
Eric Goodwin
Art King
Dave Paplawski
Gerry Pyke
Steve Torino, Chair
Chris Widrig

Some of the Governments Firearm advisory committee members also sit on the Firearms registry PAC. It at least is balanced between pro and anti gun spokespeople. But that could change.

The Program Advisory Committee (PAC) is a key element of the Action Plan that was announced in February 2003, by the Solicitor General of Canada and the Minister of Justice. The Committee is comprised of experienced individuals outside of government who provide ongoing advice on policy, program and administrative matters and who serve on a voluntary basis. The Commissioner of Firearms chairs the PAC.

Program Advisory Committee Members

Linda Baggaley
President, Bud Haynes Auctions
Red Deer, Alberta

Linda Baggaley is President of Bud Haynes Auctions in Red Deer, Alberta the oldest established Gun Auction in Canada. Linda is also a charter member of the Canadian Auctioneers Association. She is a former member of the Minister's User Group on Firearms.

Jim Bouchard
Radville, Saskatchewan

Mr. Bouchard, a former member of the Minister's User Group on Firearms, is the owner and operator of a 1700-acre grain and cattle farm in southeast Saskatchewan.

Wendy Cukier
Toronto, Ontario

Dr. Cukier is a tenured professor at Ryerson University; in addition, she is the coordinator for the Small Arms/Firearms Education Research Network and volunteer President of the Canadian Coalition for Gun Control.

David Griffin
Executive Officer
Canadian Professional Police Association
Ottawa, Ontario

Mr. Griffin is responsible for the implementation of the Canadian Professional Police Association's justice reform agenda and the government and public advocacy program. He also manages the Association's affairs.

Peter E. Larson
Executive Vice-President
Public Policy Forum
Ottawa, Ontario

Dr. Larson has extensive experience working with both the public and private sectors and has authored or directed a large number of studies and research reports concerning a wide range of public administration issues.

Marilou McPhedran
Toronto, Ontario

Ms. McPhedran is a lawyer, consultant, and volunteer for many causes that focus on equality and health. She is the co-founder and past Chair of the Board of Metrac – the Metro Action Committee on Violence Against Women and Children.

Leslie A. Pal
Director, School of Public Policy and Administration
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario

Dr. Pal is the author, co-author or editor of 19 books and his consulting practice includes work with the Ukrainian Academy of Public Administration and the Open Society Institute (Budapest), the World Bank and the Hong Kong Civil Service Training and Development Institute.

Dave Paplawski
Conservation Education Coordinator
Alberta Hunter Education Instructors Association
Calgary, Alberta

Mr. Paplawski is a former Alberta government employee who now is the Conservation Education Coordinator for the Alberta Hunter Education Instructors Association in Calgary. AHEIA coordinates the delivery of provincial hunter safety instruction and our Canadian Firearms Safety Courses. He is a former member of the Minister's User Group on Firearms.

Robert Simon
Director General, Centre de prévention du suicide
Chicoutimi, Québec

Dr. Simon is Director General of the Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean Suicide Prevention Centre and has worked with wildlife and outdoor groups to stress the importance of safe firearms storage.

Peter Sorensen
President, PRP International Inc.
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island

Mr. Sorensen has extensive experience in project management, including serving as the Government of Canada project leader for the Confederation Bridge Project.

Stephen Torino
Montreal, Quebec

Mr. Torino, the former Chair of the Minister's User Group on Firearms, is a chartered accountant and long-time firearms' collector and target shooter. In addition, he has held numerous executive positions in trapshooting and collecting associations.

Vince Westwick
Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police
Ottawa, Ontario

Mr. Westwick is General Counsel of the Ottawa Police Service. A former police officer, he is Co-chair of the Law Amendments Committee of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.

Alan Winberg
Senior Visiting Fellow, Public Management
Canadian Centre for Management Development
Ottawa, Ontario

Dr. Winberg has served in different Assistant Deputy Minister positions at Human Resources Development Canada and the Treasury Board Secretariat. He has also held senior positions in a number of other government departments.

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