Sunday, October 10, 2021

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Trump Supporters at Iowa Rally See 'Civil War Coming,' Say He Will 'Save the World'

Fatma Khaled 4 hrs ago
© Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images As Trump supporters rally in Iowa to back the former president, some attendees believe that Republicans are the same as Democrats, while other see violence will escalate in the country. Above, Trump stands at a campaign rally at Dubuque Regional Airport on November 1, 2020 in Dubuque, Iowa.

Donald Trump supporters at the Iowa rally on Saturday, waiting for the ex-president to speak, worried about "a civil war coming" and said he "will save the world."

Trump will address today's rally, being held at the Iowa State Fairground in Des Moines, at about 8 p.m. ET. Polls show he's more popular in the state than President Joe Biden. Trump had a 53 percent approval rating, according to a recent a Des Moines Register/Mediacom poll, the highest he's ever received in Iowa. Biden languished at 31 percent.

Attendee Lori Levi told MSNBC that Republicans are about "as weak as they possibly could be in Congress." She said that in her mind GOP lawmakers are like Democrats, except for senators Ted CruzMike Lee and Rand Paul and few others.

Thousands in line for this evening’s Trump Rally in Iowa pic.twitter.com/1n6oE2MMi1— Benny (@bennyjohnson) October 9, 2021

"They're establishment. They don't care about the American people because they're in their elite little tower," she said. "So we're just sick of it, you know, and we're not going to take it anymore. I see a civil war coming. I do. I see civil war coming."

Another attendee said that her entire family "turned liberal" and that they hate Trump. But, she hoped that this would turn around, adding that she has "complete faith that this man [Trump] is going to basically save the world. Not just us. Everyone."


Woman at Trump rally today says her whole family has “turned liberal” and they hate Trump. Then breaks down crying and says, “I have complete faith that this man is going to basically save the world. Not just us, everyone.” pic.twitter.com/Z5g0YXC54m— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 9, 2021

Meanwhile, one Trump supporter said that she decided to move from Alaska to Iowa after she learned that the former president will be holding a rally in Des Moines.

"He tells everything straight as it is, no BS, and that's what this country needs. No lies," she said of Trump.


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Rich Thomas, another rally attendee, said that he came to the rally to give "documents" to Trump's legal team. "Our king, Jesus Christ, has spoken to put you back in your office at the White House now," he said.

A video circulating on Twitter showed flags and "Trump won" banners installed along the route leading up to the rally, with one supporter saying "Iowa is Trump country."


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Patriots in Des Moines, Iowa

line an overpass with TRUMP WON flags along the route to President Trump’s rally at the Iowa State Fairgrounds.pic.twitter.com/SuIVcv7BOQ— DrConservaMom๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿธ๐ŸŒ (@ConservaMomUSA) October 9, 2021


In another clip, three Trump supporters said that they were at the rally because "he is the greatest president, best we have ever had" and described Biden as "dead."

"I support him, he supports us," one attendee said of Trump.

Rally organizers told We Are Iowa they expect tens of thousands of attendees on Saturday. Though doors didn't open until the afternoon, some attendees were seen camping out overnight on Thursday and Friday.

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Donald Trump accuses Democrats of supporting 'killing babies after birth' in misleading Iowa rally speech about the reconciliation bill, video shows

Donald Trump speaks at a rally in Des Moines, Iowa
Former President Donald Trump speaks to supporters during a rally at the Iowa State Fairgrounds on October 09, 2021 in Des Moines, Iowa Scott Olson/Getty Images
  • Former President Donald Trump inaccurately accused Democrats of killing babies "up until the moment of birth" at a rally in Iowa.

  • He also falsely claimed that Virginia's governor supports executing babies "after birth."

  • Fact-checkers have noted that both of these assertions are false.

Speaking to thousands of supporters at a rally in Des Moines, Iowa, former President Donald Trump baselessly accused the "far-left" of aborting babies right up until the moment of birth and misleadingly alleged that one Democrat governor supports infanticide.

Trump told the crowd that the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill, officially known as the Build Back Better Act, would force "taxpayers to fund the far left's extreme abortion agenda."

The bill, he said, would abolish the Hyde amendment. This controversial provision bars federal funds from being used for most abortions, except in cases of rape, incest, or when the pregnant person's life is in danger.

There is a lack of consensus among Democrats about including the Hyde amendment in the reconciliation bill. Some moderates, including Sen. Joe Manchin, demand that it be a part of the package.

Progressive Democrats, like Rep. Pramila Jayapal, have said that they would not support a bill that includes the Hyde amendment, and President Joe Biden told reporters that he would sign it either way.

The abolition of the Hyde amendment, Trump claimed at the rally, would see Democrats "ripping babies from their mother's womb, right up until the moment of birth."

The amendment's focus is on funding and accessibility to abortions and does not refer extreme late-term abortions.

Trump has repeated the claim several times at campaign rallies that Democrats "rip" babies from the womb at the "moment of birth," and fact-checkers have consistently noted this as false.

Most abortions are performed in the earlier stages of pregnancy, with a minuscule percentage (about one percent) happening after the fetus reaches the point of viability. "The president is describing something that rarely happens and that no Democrat is calling for anyway," said The Washington Post.

At the Iowa rally, the former president went on to make an even wilder assertion about Democrats and their abortion positions. He said that some Democrats are "killing babies after birth," and falsely alleged that Virginia Governor Ralph Northam supports infanticide.

"You saw that?" In Virginia, the governor of Virginia, after birth," Trump told the crowd.

The former president previously made the misleading assertion during his State of Union address in 2019 and at a 2019 rally in El Paso, Texas, but fact-checkers have repeatedly debunked it then.

The accusation refers to Northam's comments on "third-trimester abortions" that are done in cases "where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable," Reuters said.

Northam, a physician, never said he would sanction the execution of newborns, according to Politifact. The fact-checkers said: "What he did say is that in rare, late-pregnancy cases when fetuses are nonviable, doctors deliver the baby, keep it comfortable, resuscitate it if the mother wishes, and then have a 'discussion' with the mother."

During the rally, Insider reported that Trump also spread misinformation about widely disproved claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election.

Almost a Year Since Trump Was Soundly Defeated, Republican Leader Still Won’t Admit the Truth

Peter Wade
Sun, October 10, 2021, 


Steve Scalise - Credit: FoxNews/Screencap

Appearing on Fox News Sunday, House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) refused to say whether he believed the election was “stolen” from former President Donald Trump, who resurrected those claims at an Iowa rally Saturday night.

“I want to ask you a specific question,” host Chris Wallace said. “Do you think the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump [who is] continuing to make that charge?”

Wallace added, “Not having states do election reforms, but specifically making this charge that the election was stolen? Do you think that that hurts undermines American democracy?”

Scalise replied but did not answer the question, claiming states violated the constitution when they made changes to election law due to the pandemic. “Well Chris, I’ve been very clear from the beginning,” he said. “If you look at a number of states, they didn’t follow their state passed laws that govern the election for president. That is what the United States Constitution says. They don’t say that the states determine what the rules are, they say the state legislature determined that.”

Wallace interjected, “So you think the election was stolen?”

Scalise continued to evade — even though it’s clear where he stands since he voted against certifying Biden’s win in January — and essentially repeated what he had just said about states not following their own rules, the same thing he said in January.

Wallace tried for a third and final time to get Scalise to give a straight answer: “Do you think the election was stolen or not? I understand you think there were irregularities and things that need to be fixed. Do you think the election was stolen?”

But Scalise refused to budge and replied as if Wallace hadn’t even asked a question and instead talked about how he doesn’t like that Democrats refer to Georgia’s new election law as being similar to Jim Crow era laws.

It was at that point that Wallace likely realized he will never get a straight answer, so he gave up and ended the interview.

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