David Edwards
January 13, 2026
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The Joje Rogan Experience/screen grab
Podcast host Joe Rogan noted that there were similarities between the Nazi Gestapo and President Donald Trump's use of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers.
During an interview with Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) this week, Rogan noted that many Americans viewed ICE officers as "murderous, military people that are on the streets of our city, and they're masked up, which is also a problem."
"Because if you get arrested by a cop, you're allowed to ask the cop, what is your name and badge number?" he remarked. "If you get arrested by an ICE agent, you have no such right. They're wearing a mask. They don't have to tell you s—t. That's a problem. That's a problem on our city streets, right? Because you could also pretend to be an ICE agent."
"And we shouldn't have militarized groups of people roaming the streets, just showing up with masks on, snatching people up," he continued. "It's complicated, obviously, but it's also very ugly. To watch someone shoot a U.S. citizen, especially a woman, in the face, where it's like, I'm not that guy. I don't know what he thought."
Rogan seemed skeptical of claims that the killing of 37-year-old Renee Good in Minneapolis was necessary.
"When people say it's justifiable because the car hit him, it seemed like she was kind of turning the car away," he said. "She didn't seem mentally healthy, but does that mean she should be shot in the head? Is there no other way to handle this?"
"And then I can also see the point of view of the people to say, yeah, but you don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming around, snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be U.S. citizens that just don't have their papers on them," he added.
"Are we really going to be the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to?"
DHS responds to Joe Rogan's 'Gestapo' concerns with a 'very straightforward' reply
David Edwards
January 14, 2026
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Fox News/screen grab
Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin declined to deny that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers were behaving as the "Gestapo" after podcast Joe Rogan raised the concern.
During a Wednesday interview on Fox News, host Dana Perino noted that Rogan compared ICE to the Nazi Gestapo on a recent podcast.
"Joe Rogan, he's got questions about what's happening," Perino said, "and it's probably echoing what many people are thinking."
"How would the department respond to that concern that he raised?" she wondered.
"Well, this answer is very straightforward," McLaughlin replied. "If Tim Walz, if Mayor Frey, would let us in their jails, we wouldn't have to be there at all."
"Because we don't have state and local law enforcement's help, we do have to have a physical presence," she continued. "And I know in the interview as well, and what Joe Rogan just mentioned is the rampant crime we found, more than $9 billion. And we believe that's just the tip of the iceberg."
"If the state and local government would help there, if they would coordinate with the FBI, if they would coordinate with Homeland Security investigations, we would, on an expedited basis, be finding that fraud."
During his Tuesday podcast, Rogan acknowledged that ICE's militarization was problematic.
"You don't want militarized people in the streets," he remarked, "just roaming around, snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be U.S. citizens that just don't have their papers on them? Are we really going to be the Gestapo? Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to?"
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